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Twitter editorialising against J K Rowling again.

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IvyTwines · 07/03/2022 16:38

They're at it again. You'd think the last couple of weeks would have highlighted the value of being able to say your reporting was balanced and free from political bias, but there you go.

Twitter editorialising against J K Rowling again.
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littlbrowndog · 13/03/2022 13:39

@springtimeishereagain

One of my Twitter contacts has just said they are unfollowing everyone who follows JK Rowling because she's a massive terf and transphobe, citing her support of radical right-wing Caroline Farrow, campaign director at CitizenGO. What do we think?
You can follow or unfollow who you want on Twitter

Thers no law that you can’t do the above

It’s just Twitter

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 13/03/2022 13:48

@Ereshkigalangcleg

citing her support of radical right-wing Caroline Farrow, campaign director at CitizenGO

Her only support for her that I've seen, was responding to a tweet about the awful, threatening abuse she has received from TRAs and other mostly male activists. Which she has. You don't need to agree with her politics to sympathise with that. I don't agree with many of her views on various things such as abortion, but I don't agree anyone should face the abuse she has.

Think this was the CF tweet and the JKR response?
Twitter editorialising against J K Rowling again.
VestofAbsurdity · 13/03/2022 13:59

@Ereshkigalangcleg

citing her support of radical right-wing Caroline Farrow, campaign director at CitizenGO

Her only support for her that I've seen, was responding to a tweet about the awful, threatening abuse she has received from TRAs and other mostly male activists. Which she has. You don't need to agree with her politics to sympathise with that. I don't agree with many of her views on various things such as abortion, but I don't agree anyone should face the abuse she has.

Perfect case in point for Eee, not one single person has been spoken to by the Police, arrested or charged for the unrelenting harassment, stalking and abuse of Caroline Farrow - not one - and yet we are told that the Police and Courts are absolutely going to take VAWG seriously so do give over Eee and Margarita with your faux if they did that then they would be prosecuted too crap, they do do it and much worse they don't even get spoken to, women who report them get told to Just get off Twitter/Social Media, which is a lovely bit of victim blaming on the lines of well you are asking for it, just shut up.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2022 13:59

Yes that's what I have seen.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2022 14:02

It's because they think gender critical women all have exactly the same opinions on everything, therefore we all secretly have right wing views. It's childish. We don't, we're a much more politically diverse group than trans rights activists in general.

OvaHere · 13/03/2022 14:02

The word 'support' is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

I once tweeted sympathy to Owen Jones (and meant it) when he was beaten up outside a pub. In general I really dislike OJ and agree with him on very little.

I believe I also once expressed concern and sympathy for Boris Johnson on here when he appeared to be seriously ill with Covid. I'm not a fan of BJ and have not voted for him.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2022 14:04

Yes exactly. I tweeted congratulations to Carrie Symons when she had her first baby, I disagree with her and Boris on most things. I also wished Boris well when he had Covid.

EeeICouldRipATissue · 13/03/2022 14:14

do give over Eee and Margarita with your faux if they did that then they would be prosecuted too crap

I didn't say they would be prosecuted too though, that was Margarite - I said it was a reasonable point as in if it was flipped and he had gone to hers in the night with a raised fist poster and some slogan about trans rights - would people on here really be like yeah, nothing wrong there, we're fine with that?
As a lot of people seem to think that's absolutely fine?
It's even on this thread saying that a raised fist isn't automatically threatening - I agree, but that's definitely not what's usually said.
Is it just different because this time it's the other way around?
It's coming across people would be fine with him doing the same.
Really, if so?

ashainspace · 13/03/2022 14:25

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VestofAbsurdity · 13/03/2022 14:36

@EeeICouldRipATissue

do give over Eee and Margarita with your faux if they did that then they would be prosecuted too crap

I didn't say they would be prosecuted too though, that was Margarite - I said it was a reasonable point as in if it was flipped and he had gone to hers in the night with a raised fist poster and some slogan about trans rights - would people on here really be like yeah, nothing wrong there, we're fine with that?
As a lot of people seem to think that's absolutely fine?
It's even on this thread saying that a raised fist isn't automatically threatening - I agree, but that's definitely not what's usually said.
Is it just different because this time it's the other way around?
It's coming across people would be fine with him doing the same.
Really, if so?

If he went in the night to her place of work which was empty, it being night and all that, and affixed a banner to the security fence that surrounds her workplace you mean?
Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2022 14:39

Unlike say, lining the underpass through which she walked to work with abusive, personalised posters.

VestofAbsurdity · 13/03/2022 14:40

I seem to recall that numerous excuses were made for the TRAs who stood outside of JKR's home in daylight with their banners and surprise, surprise they haven't been prosecuted.

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Hasselhoffsheadband · 13/03/2022 14:41

@MargaritaPie

What do you think the outcome would have been if it was the other way round? ie If DP had gone to MM's workplace and done similar? He'd probably be in jail this very moment.
What, like those balaclavaed individuals who set off smoke bombs alongside a massive 'STOCK OUT' sign at the University of Sussex campus, and covered the campus, her place of work with stickers, set up an Instagram account with the sole intention of harassing her out of her job ? In jail like those people?

Oh, wait.....

Hasselhoffsheadband · 13/03/2022 14:44

Did any police ever turn up on the doorsteps of those people who harassed Kathleen Stock on her own campus? Or the people who posed outside JKRs home and posted it online, with the sole intention of inciting more harassment against her? Genuine question, I don't know what happened in either of those cases.

By the way, I thought the defence of those people who posted the pic outside JKRs house was that 'it's easy to find out where she lives so what's the problem'? Well, it's easy to find out where David Paisley works isn't it?

EeeICouldRipATissue · 13/03/2022 14:48

Why is it any different if its in the middle of the night?!
Do you think it would be any less threatening if you knew he had been there posting and tying a trans rights banner/raised fist?
I wasn't there I was at home in bed when he did it and gone by the time I got there, so I don't mind he knows where I work and posted it on social media?!
Aye, right course you would Hmm

VestofAbsurdity · 13/03/2022 14:49

The salient point Eee is that TRAs are not prosecuted for the same and much worse behaviour and yet Marion Millar was dragged into Court - either it is all wrong and everyone whichever side they are on is prosecuted or it's all fine and no-one is.

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VestofAbsurdity · 13/03/2022 14:55

@EeeICouldRipATissue

Why is it any different if its in the middle of the night?! Do you think it would be any less threatening if you knew he had been there posting and tying a trans rights banner/raised fist? I wasn't there I was at home in bed when he did it and gone by the time I got there, so I don't mind he knows where I work and posted it on social media?! Aye, right course you would Hmm
Again, it has happened and much, much worse BUT excuses are always made for it when the TRAs do it and again none of them have ever been dragged into Court over it so it's clearly one rule for them and one for everyone else isn't it?

Marian Miller's home address and place of work were posted on Social Media and what happened about that? Nothing.

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EeeICouldRipATissue · 13/03/2022 14:58

Again, it has happened and much, much worse BUT excuses are always made for it when the TRAs do it and again none of them have ever been dragged into Court over it so it's clearly one rule for them and one for everyone else isn't it?
That's completely missing the point though - people, even on this thread, are saying stuff like that is not threatening.
Yet here you are, seemingly saying it is.
So which is it?!
Can't be both.

springtimeishereagain · 13/03/2022 15:00

@Ereshkigalangcleg

citing her support of radical right-wing Caroline Farrow, campaign director at CitizenGO

Her only support for her that I've seen, was responding to a tweet about the awful, threatening abuse she has received from TRAs and other mostly male activists. Which she has. You don't need to agree with her politics to sympathise with that. I don't agree with many of her views on various things such as abortion, but I don't agree anyone should face the abuse she has.

Thank you. I didn't know that Farrow had been subjected to online abuse; I had never heard of her.
springtimeishereagain · 13/03/2022 15:01

@ashainspace

Just because JKR offered support to an adamant pro-lifer and anti-gay marriage campaigner it doesn't mean she shares her views.

If anything it shows how compassionate she is.

Problem is, people seem to have taken it as that she shares their views...
Hasselhoffsheadband · 13/03/2022 15:01

To be honest, I think David Paisley is best just ignored, so I don't know what they thought would be achieved by going to the River City studios to place that banner.

But there is a definite whiff of double standards going on here. What about that bloke who had the '#killjkrowling' banner at that March? Or the one proudly bearing the 'Rot in Hell Rowling' banner? Did the police ever arrest those men? They were public death threats specifically directed against JKR.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 13/03/2022 15:03

Problem is, people seem to have taken it as that she shares their views...

That's because these people are
a) thick as shit
b) desperately scratching around in the dirt for anything they can use to discredit a woman who has the audacity to not bow down to their demands.