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Britain's Equalities Watchdog Met Privately With Anti-Trans Groups

94 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/02/2022 12:27

Ben Hunte and Steph Place have carried out an investigation into the EHRC. Steph's Place is now demanding:

. The immediate resignation of the Chair of the EHRC, Baroness Kishwar Falkner, and the entire Board of Commissioners

• The immediate resignation of the Ministers for Equality Liz Truss and Kemi Badenoch, who are directly responsible for the political appointment of the EHRC leadership

• The EHRC immediately cease all activities in relation to the Equalities Act 2010 and any associated guidance which may impact the rights of trans people in the UK

• Removal of the EHRC's 'A' status as a National Human Rights Institution (NHRI) as it is clearly unfit for purpose

• A full review of the EHRC's fitness to practice as a human rights organisation as a United Nations accredited National Human Rights Institution.

• All EHRC Board and Chair replacements should be selected based on a proven track record of defending and promoting human rights for all UK citizens and approved by the Women & Equalities Select Committee.

As far as I can tell the main findings of the investigation are that the EHRC had the temerity to meet with FPFW and LGB Alliance Shock

www.vice.com/en/article/wxdzwn/ehrc-trans-rights-leaked-emails
Also at archive.md/z5RP6

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BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 02/02/2022 12:34

Steph's place would like their pear both cutted up and whole and also demand to be taken seriously

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/02/2022 12:36

How is it news that EHRC is required to listen to all stakeholders?

highame · 02/02/2022 12:36

Have they forgotten Crispin Blunt and his little secret escapade about an agreement for self id to be brought in by the back door. He had to apologise.

Bet it wasn't a secret meeting, if it was, how come that lot found out

Shout and bluster because 'shock horror' women are being consulted

yourhairiswinterfire · 02/02/2022 12:39

All this because people cannot accept that women also have rights and deserve to be considered too.

Utterly pathetic.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 02/02/2022 12:40

don't forget that they also consulted some homosexual people

including known homosexual women who refuse to have sex with men

criminy!

ArcheryAnnie · 02/02/2022 12:41

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

Steph's place would like their pear both cutted up and whole and also demand to be taken seriously
Perfect!
Abitofalark · 02/02/2022 12:44

The thread title alone is a piece of propaganda for a start before we even get to the 'investigation'.

What I assume is that she met women's groups concerned about women's rights and safety.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 02/02/2022 12:46

I follow Steph's Place on twitter for the lols. I see that Steph has locked Steph's tweets and says there will be no comment from Steph until Friday.

Must be a bit tired from talking to Mr Hunte. He does look wearing.

Masdintle · 02/02/2022 12:50

Several big backlashes going in in that article Grin

Masdintle · 02/02/2022 12:50

Sorry, huge backlashes

OvaHere · 02/02/2022 12:57

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

Steph's place would like their pear both cutted up and whole and also demand to be taken seriously
LOL
BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 02/02/2022 12:58

oh god, I read the actual article (v poor and circular)

the scare quotes!

the completely reasonable statements quoted as people are advocating eating puppies!

for e.g.

Nicola Williams, founder of Fair Play For Women, a group which claims to “advocate for the sex-based rights of women and girls”, was invited to meet with Falkner. Williams has been accused of transphobia for repeatedly calling trans women “males”.

er...because transwomen are male by definition?

I was rather reminded of Rita Skeeter actually, except Rita's copy was of considerably higher quality

Whatsnewpussyhat · 02/02/2022 13:05

How is it unfit for purpose if it it now finally doing the actual job it was supposed to be doing in the first place?

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 02/02/2022 13:07

This tedious editorialisation has to stop. Groups that are pro-women are opposed to a loss of sex-based class and legal protections. This does not position such groups as anti anything rather than in favour of greater understanding of intersectional dissonance and the need for understanding around this.

OvaHere · 02/02/2022 13:10

The Dogs Trust are anti-cat.

This is what they sound like.

VestofAbsurdity · 02/02/2022 13:12

The hyperbolic tantruming in that article is off the scale.

They really are tin pot dictators aren't they? Demanding everyone toe their line, abide by their dictats.

Again, trans is the only characteristic that counts to them.

I laughed at the idea that the previous Chair David Isaacs was impartial.

This ridiculousness has to stop.

teawamutu · 02/02/2022 13:14

Steph of Steph's Place organised the protests at FILIA, I believe.

Steph was vocal on Twitter that if the feminists had been nicer, Steph would have been in the venue Stephself, standing with women.

Steph did not respond when I pointed out Steph wasn't fucking WANTED in the venue.

SolasAnla · 02/02/2022 13:14

A male organisation demanding that the lawful obligations of an Authority be stopped because the male organisation is unhappy with the work the Authority is carrying out.

Male organisation demanding removal of elected Representitive's because the male organisation is unhappy with the work an Authority is carrying out.

Male organisation demands special status because the male organisation is unhappy with the work the Authority is carrying out.

This is the male organisation which was involved in protesting resulting in the intimidation and sexual harassment of a women's conference??

No bias evident then.🤷🏼‍♀️

Helleofabore · 02/02/2022 13:16

Steph hates being referred to as ‘male’… mmmm. I remember a poster named Steph getting banned here one night after telling me and other posters off for referring to transitioned males as males. In conjunction with the WiSpa incident.

Maybe all transitioned Stephs have that particular issue.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 02/02/2022 13:19

Steph did not respond when I pointed out Steph wasn't fucking WANTED in the venue.

Would it be cynical of me to assume that that would be irrelevant to Steph?

Goatsaregreat · 02/02/2022 13:20

So Steph's & Ben's position is that groups like the EHRC must only meet with Steph and Ben' s friends? Nobody else, especially women must be allowed access? And this is their understanding of how a democracy works?

It's the Violet Elizabeth Bott approach to politics and democracy Grin

teawamutu · 02/02/2022 13:20

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus

Steph did not respond when I pointed out Steph wasn't fucking WANTED in the venue.

Would it be cynical of me to assume that that would be irrelevant to Steph?

I think all Steph heard was a faint buzzing, tbh.
TinselAngel · 02/02/2022 13:20

In case anybody is unfamiliar with the cut of Steph's jib, Steph wrote a whole blog about how much Steph hates me.

TinselAngel · 02/02/2022 13:21

Blog post that is.

RoyalCorgi · 02/02/2022 13:23

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

Steph's place would like their pear both cutted up and whole and also demand to be taken seriously
Thanks for reminding me of one of the all-time great MN threads. Grin