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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jesus was Transgender

60 replies

MalagaNights · 22/01/2022 22:13

twitter.com/WokePreacherTV/status/1484202496147046403?t=boTq0jRTFFJ7sv6UJ1qQuA&s=19

Just sharing this nonsense from an Anglican cleric.

Man doing 'women's jobs' is transgender.

Must go and tell my DH who's now doing the washing up.

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Blue4YOU · 22/01/2022 22:16

Wtf?
Women’s jobs??
I’m sure even in the 14th century it wasn’t defined- and as for making someone transgender if they were to do a different “gender role”, it’s an insult to people who do consider their gender to be other than it is (whatever that means in relation to their sex, as opposed to gender).

BruceAndNosh · 22/01/2022 22:16

I used an electric drill today and called someone "Love"
Am I a bloke now?

Thelnebriati · 22/01/2022 22:17

Do we need a list of every possible activity and its gender now? Who gets to decide this, and what if I steal their pen?

ArabellaScott · 22/01/2022 22:22

Of course he was, he had long hair and wore a dress.

campion · 22/01/2022 22:29

It may seem like a detail but he is not an Anglican priest.

He's a Baptist minister at Bloomsbury Central Baptist Church as it clearly says on the Twitter clip. Nothing to do with the CofE or any other Anglican church.

I think he's a bit confused too.

FireFlyBoogaloo · 22/01/2022 22:31

Reminds me of the pro-trans woman on the Doctor Phil episode the other day who said something like "Sex and gender are different. Just because someone is born with certain chromosomes and anatomy doesn't mean they will like... you know... vacuuming."

Like what the HELL sort of backward gender stereotypes are these people operating with?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 22/01/2022 22:31

@ArabellaScott

Of course he was, he had long hair and wore a dress.
Ds1 and i just said that 😀
donquixotedelamancha · 22/01/2022 22:57

It may seem like a detail but he is not an Anglican priest.

Not unreasonable for OP to see a clip of someone talking a load of bollocks which clearly isn't compatible with Christianity and assume he's Anglican.

I was surprised when I realised he was Baptist, of all things- the only ones I know are evangelical and biblical literalists. I've emailed them this clip just to annoy them :-)

Cherryana · 22/01/2022 23:11

I didn’t listen to it but maybe Jesus was doing something that broke with tradition regarding who usually washes feet. I don’t know about it?
If you take the accounts to be accurate then he allowed woman to learn in the same manner as the men. He empowered a woman to be the first evangelist (the woman in the well) and these were clearly breaking traditional roles of the day.

My take on it was that he was showing God is both masculine and feminine - and traditional convention is not the same as what defines a man or a woman.

However, Jesus has been claimed to be most things to a lot of people to justify almost anything.

hallouminatus · 22/01/2022 23:28

Reminds me of Jesus Was An Androgyne by Dory Previn:
Love her songs, but this is not one of her best.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 22/01/2022 23:37

Funny isn't it.

They've recently announced that the Lovers of Modena (skeletons) who were thought to be male and female, are both male. No one has suggested one was a trans woman - not yet anyway.

NitroNine · 23/01/2022 00:11

Ah yes, Jesus, Son of God, carpenter & secret sommelier.

It’s nothing new, the ZOMG LOOK AT JESUS DOING A WOMAN THING! - but to be honest, if people are going to clutch at Jesus’ subversion of gender norms, I prefer this 2016 effort that argues for the ordination of women in the Catholic Church because He’d overturn the patriarchy like He flipped the traders’ tables in the Temple…

Jesus is performing a wholly symbolic expression of humility - the only trans is that this can be counted into the pattern of transgressions that led to His eventual execution.

This sort of ahistorical imposition* is… embarrassing. It is very difficult & unfortunate (to say the least) that some denominations utterly reject the very concept of being transgender. People of faith who are trans should not feel they have to choose one over the other; & it is lovely if there are congregations who actively seek to make trans members feel welcomed. Trying to do it by claiming Jesus is trans is surely only going to backfire though - & I’m sure most transgender Peoples Of The Book would be mortified at the combination of what many would consider a literally diabolical misinterpretation of Scripture & a quite glib & shallow conceptualisation of “transgendering”.

  • (obviously in the case of Jesus I am using ahistorical more broadly ie “were this to have happened in this way at that time”; but leaving aside examination of question of Jesus’ divinity - or indeed existence, for those who consider the evidence for that inadequate)
NitroNine · 23/01/2022 00:19

In fact, applying same ahistorical approach but carrying to logical conclusion: if Jesus had been trans Barabbas & humanity as a whole would’ve been out of luck because Pilate would have freed Big J on grounds of being too vulnerable for crucifixion Wink

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 23/01/2022 00:52

@FireFlyBoogaloo

Reminds me of the pro-trans woman on the Doctor Phil episode the other day who said something like "Sex and gender are different. Just because someone is born with certain chromosomes and anatomy doesn't mean they will like... you know... vacuuming."

Like what the HELL sort of backward gender stereotypes are these people operating with?

Does the Dr Phil numpty believe that women actually like vacuuming?! He's going to have a bit of a surprise when he grows the fuck up.
Wafflesnsniffles · 23/01/2022 02:22

I know him! Well years ago I did. Oh my goodness.

NotTerfNorCis · 23/01/2022 07:19

This is the ultimate logic behind genderism. 'Man' and 'woman' are defined by cultural stereotypes.

Abigail12345654321 · 23/01/2022 08:05

Well he did feed the 5000. Sounds like a woman.

Who’s going to tell Gordon Ramsey he’s a woman?

NotBadConsidering · 23/01/2022 08:21

@Wafflesnsniffles

I know him! Well years ago I did. Oh my goodness.
Jesus?Shock

What was he really like? Was he secretly a sanctimonious prick?

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2022 08:40

NotBad, there is actual footage and an interview with his mother available:

ChubbyNinja · 23/01/2022 08:42

OMG did Jesus have a trans parent?

ChubbyNinja · 23/01/2022 08:43

That birth would indeed have been a miracle

WorriedMumsDontSleep · 23/01/2022 09:05

will like... you know... vacuuming

The only person I know who likes hoovering is my small toddler. Definitely not one of my adult hobbies.

Igneococcus · 23/01/2022 09:35

Doesn't the Pope wash feet in the Maundy Thursday mass? That makes all the popes transgender by that logic.

VelvetChairGirl · 23/01/2022 10:00

the burly blokes at the turkish baths will be horrified.

Alekto · 23/01/2022 10:01

@FireFlyBoogaloo

Reminds me of the pro-trans woman on the Doctor Phil episode the other day who said something like "Sex and gender are different. Just because someone is born with certain chromosomes and anatomy doesn't mean they will like... you know... vacuuming."

Like what the HELL sort of backward gender stereotypes are these people operating with?

Gender ideology adherents are the most regressive bunch of people the world has ever seen, bar none.
Jesus was Transgender