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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jesus was Transgender

60 replies

MalagaNights · 22/01/2022 22:13

twitter.com/WokePreacherTV/status/1484202496147046403?t=boTq0jRTFFJ7sv6UJ1qQuA&s=19

Just sharing this nonsense from an Anglican cleric.

Man doing 'women's jobs' is transgender.

Must go and tell my DH who's now doing the washing up.

OP posts:
IncompleteSenten · 23/01/2022 10:02

Oh ffs

BeatriceDalle · 23/01/2022 10:02

@Abigail12345654321

Well he did feed the 5000. Sounds like a woman.

Who’s going to tell Gordon Ramsey he’s a woman?

Grin
VelvetChairGirl · 23/01/2022 10:04

@FireFlyBoogaloo

Reminds me of the pro-trans woman on the Doctor Phil episode the other day who said something like "Sex and gender are different. Just because someone is born with certain chromosomes and anatomy doesn't mean they will like... you know... vacuuming."

Like what the HELL sort of backward gender stereotypes are these people operating with?

the vacuum cleaner was invented in 1901 and was a massive thing on a horse drawn cart, the wealthy paid them for the service and they stuck the hoses in the door/windows to do the job.

they being the MEN on the cart, so vacuuming is a males job, they started it.

ABitOfAShitShow · 23/01/2022 10:08

@ArabellaScott

Of course he was, he had long hair and wore a dress.
😂
ArabellaScott · 23/01/2022 10:10

@Igneococcus

Doesn't the Pope wash feet in the Maundy Thursday mass? That makes all the popes transgender by that logic.
Well, again - note the frocks.
Whitefire · 23/01/2022 10:18

I'm speechless, I really am.

A pal of Steve Chalke by any chance.

NABMALT (Not all Baptist ministers are like that)

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2022 10:19

If Jesus was an MNer, what would zhe post?

“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened and thou shalt removeth they shoes on entering"

‘Love your neighbor as yourself unless there is a cf parking issue in which smite the bastards'

“I am the way and the truth and the life AIBU to feel a bit like I'm being put under too much pressure here?'

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand, but AIBU to consider a nanny?'

“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and let the washing not be darkenethed upon'

Whitefire · 23/01/2022 10:22

Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened and thou shalt removeth they shoes on entering

No proper upstanding MN'er would open the door though. It would have to just be that appearing business like post crucifixion / resurrection.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 23/01/2022 10:22

Baby bird knew this, years ago 🙂

Wafflesnsniffles · 23/01/2022 11:48

NotBadConsidering
Obviously I meant Simon Woodman. All sorts of anecdotes I could mention but best not too.

viques · 23/01/2022 12:03

@ArabellaScott

Of course he was, he had long hair and wore a dress.
And single handedly prepared food for and fed 5000 people. No man could have managed that without a lot of heavy sighing.
NitroNine · 23/01/2022 12:03

In 2016 Pope Francis changed The Rules & things got less-literal with the disciple-repping (ie women got the Papal Pseudo-Pedicure) so according to The Other Rules he is Cracking [Easter] Eggs while Living His Best Life. Some stunning embroidered outfits with accessorising taken to the length of, er, the entire Catholic clergy & all Catholic places of worship. Style ICON that one.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 23/01/2022 12:20

If Jesus was an MNer, what would zhe post?

Something about feeding the masses with the MN chicken and a huge salad? Possibly followed by lemon drizzle cake.

Wonder what his favourite biscuit is?

MalagaNights · 23/01/2022 12:26

Apologies for assuming he was Anglican in my OP!

Tbh I didn't look very carefully at it, just thought: this is the sort of utter nonsense MN might like to see!

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Artichokeleaves · 23/01/2022 12:32

It's amazing how much the New Testament is not full of discussion over the issues of pronouns and identity and who gets to go to the wells with the women, or use the red tent. It's kind of busy with a lot of other things, such as being a small group of rebels in an occupied country, and being a rabbi going rogue from the central religion. Lots of political belief being taught, but not much of it taken up with micro aggression, literal violence (too much real violence going on for a start), and transition. Quite apart from which, Jesus refers to himself multiply as man, son, etc so do the disciples who as his closest mates I would rely on to know preferred pronouns and chosen identity. So I'm fairly confident I have not misgendered.

Unless anyone's got a time machine, and can pop back and explain genderism to him in detail, through the 21st century lens, and expect someone in the 1st century to think these beliefs trump all their beliefs and problems, and will be relevant in the first century, and see what he says (he'll certainly be very kind about it), I think we probably have to accept that this is a bit of a crowbarred, three am thought.

TerraNovaTwo · 23/01/2022 12:59

OMFG If TRAs are really looking to achieve 'equal' rights in society, whatever they perceive those to be, this really isn't helping their cause. It is stereotyping both trans people and women Hmm

It reads the same as the old line 'men who look after their bodies and are in touch with their emotions must be gay'.

Using this cleric's strange logic, male nurses, teachers, SAHDs and so on are also transgender?

Precipice · 23/01/2022 14:17

This is clearly wrong. Jesus was not transgender, he was transdeity. He identified as the son of God, but those bigoted Romans refused to accept him for who he was inside, and that, friends, is how transphobia kills.

Tragically, this type of trans identity has not yet been included under Stonewall's trans umbrella, but we expect it to happen any day now.

viques · 23/01/2022 14:32

@YetAnotherSpartacus

If Jesus was an MNer, what would zhe post?

Something about feeding the masses with the MN chicken and a huge salad? Possibly followed by lemon drizzle cake.

Wonder what his favourite biscuit is?

You forgot the crusty bread. No MN feast for more than six people is complete without crusty bread.

I think Jesus would have enjoyed supermarket own brand ginger biscuits, humble and modest.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/01/2022 15:34

Thank you, OP
This and other people’s comments have made me smile on this damp, cold, January Sunday.

Signalbox · 23/01/2022 17:44

Jesus was bi and non-binary…

www.tiktok.com/@emmalinecs/video/6966905230722075906?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

Cherryana · 23/01/2022 22:58

I think Jesus would prefer cheesus and biscuits with a nice red wine.

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2022 23:19

Wafers, surely?

CheeseMmmm · 24/01/2022 04:58

I don't know this bloke or his beliefs/ branch Christian etc.

It's hardly a surprise though?

Abrahamic religions on the more fundamental side are vvv much into strict sex roles. Really strict.

Man doing something this man at least sees as demeaning/ submissive/ servile, is as woman. Those things are for women.

No big surprise.

IF pro gender identity etc. Then example Iran.

Better for a man who is feminine in some way way according to their views. Gay, too interested in clothes accessories etc esp if aimed at women.

Then better he is woman. Then problem gone.

NotBadConsidering · 24/01/2022 06:46

@ArabellaScott

Wafers, surely?
Wouldn’t Jesus eating wafers and drinking red wine be some form of cannibalism? I’m a bit hazy on the old transubstantiation thing…
FrancescaContini · 24/01/2022 07:05

@ScrollingLeaves

Thank you, OP This and other people’s comments have made me smile on this damp, cold, January Sunday.
Yes, me too. Thanks, everyone!