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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Matt Walsh asks trans activist 'what is a woman'..

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sacredfeminina · 20/01/2022 23:30

Stumbled accross this on twitter. Matt Walsh, an American political commentator is on a chat show and confronts transactivist to define a woman and tells him that he is appropriating womanhood.

Then after being told that he has 'traumatised' the activists... He provides this response!!

Wow. He says sh*t straight.... Haha!

Talkshow:

Response:
twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1484268313815441418?s=20

OP posts:
barleybadminton · 23/01/2022 19:55

@MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor

We know what a trans inclusive society looks like because it exists in places like New York and California

Not very inclusive to women though. Just look at WiSpa.. Trans person with their cock hanging out in front of women and children with a semi errection. That's how fucking inclusive it is. To cock owners. And this is what trans ideology is doing. Seeking to destroy any rights and safeguards that women have. So get to fuck with your far right bollocks. Trans ideology has created this. Deal with it.

Maybe we should have zones (far away from anyone else) where you can live your utopia, and leave womens rights and children's safeguards the fuck alone.

I'm sure the women forced to carry their rapists baby's to full term will be ever so grateful that you cheered on those who banned them from having an abortion and that they can now go to a nude spa without seeing a trans women.
NotBadConsidering · 23/01/2022 19:56

Ah yes, California and Wi Spa. Women and girls subjected to indecent exposure (male subsequently charged with such offences), and women and girls painted as liars, with the Guardian complicit.

Yes, let’s all rush to be like them Hmm. Not to mention the other anti-women horrors such as surrogacy laws there masquerading as progressive.

Alekto · 23/01/2022 19:57

Are trans people trying to ban abortion?

Yes, some are:

"We are the Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising!

#Prolife #AntiAbortion"

https://twitter.com/paaunow/status/1444407294482071553?s=21

Deliriumoftheendless · 23/01/2022 19:58

Jesus Christ- still people defending a sexual predator exposing himself in front of children, which is actually what “seeing a transwoman” means in this instance.

NotBadConsidering · 23/01/2022 19:58

and that they can now go to a nude spa without seeing a trans women

So you’re admitting the person who was charged with indecent exposure is in fact a transwoman? But I thought it never happened?!

VestofAbsurdity · 23/01/2022 19:58

nude spa without seeing a trans women

So you are admitting the sexual offender with a string of previous convictions is a transwoman? Dearie me, I though no transwomen ever did that kind of thing.

DialSquare · 23/01/2022 19:59

Do you believe the earth is flat barley?

ANewCreation · 23/01/2022 19:59

When I was very new to all this, I assumed that everyone understood all the transition and 'sex change' stuff was metaphorical, as human sex is obviously immutable.

A soldier who loses his penis and lower limbs in a terrible landmine explosion is still a man. Infertile women are the same female sex class as fertile/pre-fertile/post-fertile women. A woman who has had a hysterectomy is still just as much a woman as she was the day before the operation. A hirsute woman in a trouser suit is still female, a hirsute man in a skirt is not a lesbian.

This stuff is self-evident.

And indeed when it comes to the desire to acquire a surrogate, suddenly even the most fanatical TRAs actually know what a woman is.

All people in human history are born from women. Small pre-verbal children can tell the difference between men and women, animals can tell. We all know what women are.

So why the pretence? Qui bono?
Why is it all so complicated to parse, so that on national tv you can't muster a coherent, non-tautological definition of the word woman, a word for half the world's population?

A woman is anyone
who feels like a woman,
calls themselves a woman,
identifies as a woman,
is described by others as a woman,
looks like a woman,
their GRC says they are a woman
just doesn't cut it.

A schnarblex is anyone who feels like a schnarblex etc shows it up to be guff.

When you won't agree that a woman is an adult human female, nothing more, nothing less, then your ideology is bogus, untethered from reality. Then genuinely negative and dangerous consequences start appearing which - !surprise! - particularly affect women and girls.

It's just a few short moves before you have babies being born with no sex (Dawn Butler-MP, Labour) only women having cervixes being something that shouldn't be said (Keir Starmer MP, Labour), women not having a right to single sex spaces (Alex Sobel MP, Labour ) and rapists in women's prisons(Lisa Nandy MP, Labour)

And yes, right wing people have every chance to exploit your incoherence on the subject.

Meanwhile I note a change in Loudoun County.

nypost.com/2022/01/20/loudoun-county-schools-boss-axed-over-transgender-scandal-reports/

VestofAbsurdity · 23/01/2022 20:01

On the subject of Loudoun County - was the rapist a transwoman @barleybadminton?

MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor · 23/01/2022 20:04

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barleybadminton · 23/01/2022 20:11

@VestofAbsurdity

On the subject of Loudoun County - was the rapist a transwoman *@barleybadminton*?
No, in fact it seems to have nothing to do with trans women. And the idea this attack would have been prevented by a single sex space is equally false. Men who are prepared to do things like this are not going to be put off by a woman's sign on the door sadly.
MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor · 23/01/2022 20:13

Men who are prepared to do things like this are not going to be put off by a woman's sign on the door sadly

Not a reason to make it easier for men. No matter how they identify. Why open up women's spaces and give women no right to challenge men. Your ideology has caused this.

nolongersurprised · 23/01/2022 20:14

Men who are prepared to do things like this are not going to be put off by a woman's sign on the door sadly

So we’re back to, men and boys rape, so let’s just open up all single space spaces, then?

NotBadConsidering · 23/01/2022 20:14

Well it didn’t take long to go from accusations of getting into bed with the far right to “rapes are gonna happen anyway, so it doesn’t matter”.

Amazing you think you’re on the moral high ground here barley.

nolongersurprised · 23/01/2022 20:15

and that they can now go to a nude spa without seeing a trans women

A transwoman with an erection, clearly aroused by being around naked women and girls

MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor · 23/01/2022 20:15

Amazing you think you’re on the moral high ground here barley.

Whereas the truth is, how much lower can one possibly sink. Absolutely stinking appalling.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 23/01/2022 20:17

On the subject of Wi-Spa, the woman who was maligned by trans activists across social media, including mumsnet, and by multiple newspapers, was a black woman, wasn't she, Barley?

Just mentioning that, seeing as you brought up "people of colour" and implied it was our duty to accept gender identity ideology for the sake of "people of colour". The man who lectured her on how she should accept the sight of someone's penis looked pretty damn white.

Funny thing, but the person alleged to have been the perpetrator at Wi-Spa has a record for exposing their penis in women's locker rooms. Can you explain how allowing this behaviour serves women and girls "of colour"?

Matt Walsh asks trans activist 'what is a woman'..
TurquoiseBaubles · 23/01/2022 20:18

So wi-spa man is perfectly fine as long as he isn't anti-abortion?

How the fuck is this any level of debate?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 23/01/2022 20:19

No, in fact it seems to have nothing to do with trans women. And the idea this attack would have been prevented by a single sex space is equally false. Men who are prepared to do things like this are not going to be put off by a woman's sign on the door sadly.

In that case, what's the point of transwomen seeking refuge from transphobic violence by using women's spaces? Men who are prepared to assault transwomen are not going to be put off by a woman's sign on the door. They'll just ignore the sign to assault the transwomen, surely?

barleybadminton · 23/01/2022 20:20

Just mentioning that, seeing as you brought up "people of colour" and implied it was our duty to accept gender identity ideology for the sake of "people of colour".

I have not suggested you should accept gender identity ideology whatever you think that means. I suggested that cheering on pro-lifers and misogynists simply because they attacked trans people will not work out well for women should that support help them gain power.

MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor · 23/01/2022 20:23

I have not suggested you should accept gender identity ideology whatever you think that means. I suggested that cheering on pro-lifers and misogynists simply because they attacked trans people will not work out well for women should that support help them gain power.

What gender ideology has in mind for women is far far worse. Bear that in mind and hold it there. I suspect the truth is that you're worried that it actually won't work out so well for you. And I hope it doesn't.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 23/01/2022 20:24

@barleybadminton

Just mentioning that, seeing as you brought up "people of colour" and implied it was our duty to accept gender identity ideology for the sake of "people of colour".

I have not suggested you should accept gender identity ideology whatever you think that means. I suggested that cheering on pro-lifers and misogynists simply because they attacked trans people will not work out well for women should that support help them gain power.

How does ignoring events like Wi-Spa in case people you don't like profit from it (which could be solved at a stroke by not supporting indecent exposure in the first place) serve women and girls "of colour"?
ScreamingMeMe · 23/01/2022 20:28

No, in fact it seems to have nothing to do with trans women. And the idea this attack would have been prevented by a single sex space is equally false. Men who are prepared to do things like this are not going to be put off by a woman's sign on the door sadly.

Errr no. This person was allowed in the women's spa by the Spa management because they claimed a trans identity. JFC. Scores of TRAs and allies downplayed, excused or downright lied about it because the person claimed a trans identity.

At least you have acknowledged that it's women who have abortions. Watch you don't get cancelled and called a nazibigot for not being 'inclusive' in your language!

NotBadConsidering · 23/01/2022 20:30

@barleybadminton

Just mentioning that, seeing as you brought up "people of colour" and implied it was our duty to accept gender identity ideology for the sake of "people of colour".

I have not suggested you should accept gender identity ideology whatever you think that means. I suggested that cheering on pro-lifers and misogynists simply because they attacked trans people will not work out well for women should that support help them gain power.

This was classic of Labour in the last UK election?

“The people who voted against us are so stupid! It’s their fault we lost in a landslide!”

ScreamingMeMe · 23/01/2022 20:31

How does ignoring events like Wi-Spa in case people you don't like profit from it (which could be solved at a stroke by not supporting indecent exposure in the first place) serve women and girls "of colour"?

It was a woman of colour who raised the alarm, only to be called a bigot and a liar.