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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How can I, as an individual transwoman, can make a stand against the TRA avalanche?

129 replies

simmonslulu · 05/01/2022 16:42

A thread created in response to a post on another thread.

Any advice gratefully received

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titchy · 05/01/2022 16:51

Post on Reddit.

titchy · 05/01/2022 16:51

And Twitter.

Greenmarmalade · 05/01/2022 16:52

Write an opinion piece and send it to some newspapers?

simmonslulu · 05/01/2022 16:54

@titchy

Post on Reddit.
Not a member but I will join and post
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simmonslulu · 05/01/2022 16:57

@titchy

And Twitter.
I post every day about the biological reality of being a transwoman and why Dr Pangloss thinking is both delusional and wrong because it undermines the safety of women and children. It also causes people to dislike and mistrust transwomen as a whole whatever their individual views on the matter. Also on FB.
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KimWexlersPonyTail · 05/01/2022 16:59

Prepare yourself for the onslaught if you don't tow the TRA line totally. I have seen transwomen called not really trans if you don't.

simmonslulu · 05/01/2022 16:59

@Greenmarmalade

Write an opinion piece and send it to some newspapers?
I have tried this but it is never printed and seldom acknowledged, it is almost as if their is a conspiracy of silence on the topic. An illustration of how deep the TRA agenda has penetrated into the fourth estate as well as the other three.
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simmonslulu · 05/01/2022 17:08

@KimWexlersPonyTail

Prepare yourself for the onslaught if you don't tow the TRA line totally. I have seen transwomen called not really trans if you don't.
Already been called a transphobe, as well as an ar--hole and not a real transwoman. Just been thrown out of 'Trans Army' FB because of the views I have expressed. I know it sounds incredible but some of them really believe that when it comes to biological differences between men and women science has moved on! The evidence they use to justify this is based upon changes to the US 8th grade biology syllabus which requires schoolteachers to promote a politicised agenda!

Classic Orwell, put pressure on society to change what children are taught then use it as proof of science. I have worked as a teacher briefly and received the Stonewall view, I was the only to express outrage and I was also the only trans in the room. The rest oohed and ahhed and gave their tacit approval to the drivel that seems to emerge from every pore of Stonewall.

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penguinwithasuitcase · 05/01/2022 17:12

I'm not well enough informed to make suggestions on this topic and there are plenty of others around here who are, so I'll leave it to them, but wanted to thank you for being courageous enough to try.

Hard as it feels for me as a woman to take this stand in public spaces, I imagine it must be incredibly difficult as a transwoman.

simmonslulu · 05/01/2022 17:22

@penguinwithasuitcase

I'm not well enough informed to make suggestions on this topic and there are plenty of others around here who are, so I'll leave it to them, but wanted to thank you for being courageous enough to try.

Hard as it feels for me as a woman to take this stand in public spaces, I imagine it must be incredibly difficult as a transwoman.

Thank you, I was motivated when I saw the explosion of young people boys and girls really believing that they needed to undergoe brutal (yes it is brutal) to become their correct sex. A dream that is of course impossible to fulfil unless you are God with a time machine.

Some TRAs with Stonewall have promoted their agenda to such a degree and society has been pusillanimous in its response that we have pubescent girls having their breast removed based upon a complete fallacy.

It is a case of all hands to the pump, transitioning should be restricted to adults of sound mind. There should be a clear CAVEAT EMPTOR this will not change your sex but it may allow you (as in my case) to live more easily in your skin.

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 05/01/2022 17:25

Hi OP

I'm optimistic you're posting in good faith so welcome to MN ... hope you're enjoying it so far.

Thank you for being part of the pushback against some opinions which are a real danger to safeguarding.

I wish you well in your life and hope more individuals like yourself can stand up and make sure actual debate happens.

ANameChangeAgain · 05/01/2022 17:26

I think the current militant thinking on trans rights has done more harm than good. Women would be far more accepting of transwomen if it wasn't for all of the slogan shouting, usually by non-trans people.
I would say keep having a voice @simmonslulu.

Malariahilaria · 05/01/2022 17:39

Hi OP. You're very welcome to MN. I really don't like the common mantra that we're all trans haters. I'm certainly not, I hope you are able to live life in the way you want to without any insults, exclusion or negativity. How you can help as pp have said is just keep posting, if you're on twitter and happy to share I'll follow and like etc. Unfortunately I think rather like brexit vs not brexit, and trump vs not trump, those who think all women questioning if all this self Id ideology might prove a bit dangerous to vulnerable women and girls, have come down on one side of a fence and won't ever debate the issues. Good luck.

WandaWomblesaurus73 · 05/01/2022 19:47

Debbie Hayton could offer some advice perhaps if someone could link Debbie's username?

WandaWomblesaurus73 · 05/01/2022 19:48

Also reach out to Rose of Dawn and @Glinner?

MangosteenSoda · 05/01/2022 20:01

Hi. I’m afraid I don’t have enough knowledge about the topic to offer anything insightful, but want to say it’s brave to go against the grain of your peers given the current reaction to conversations around this area.

TyrannosaurusRights · 05/01/2022 20:07

Write to your MP/equivalent on the topics that matter to you as a transwomen. It sounds like early intervention is something you strongly oppose so maybe start with that and offer your unique insight as a transwomen on the subject.

IHateCoronavirus · 05/01/2022 20:13

Sending you some solidarity in your mission op. You sound like the voice of reason in a very muddy battlefield. Flowers

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 05/01/2022 20:18

On a micro level
Don't use womens spaces. Make a point of using the mens loos and widen the bandwidth of male behaviour, appearance and clothing by being yourself in male spaces.
On a societal level, write. Get help if you aren't a gifted writer but write and get your views all out there wherever you can.

TheMarzipanDildo · 05/01/2022 20:24

Definitely write to your MP about your feelings.

SantaClawsServiette · 05/01/2022 20:28

I think also just talking to people is a big deal. A personal contact makes a huge difference. There are a lot of well meaning people who would, if someone trans told them they had real issues about the TRA agenda, feel much more free to just question it and think about it themselves.

I also think there is a real apace out there for some kind of group of trans people who publicly oppose these things. Maybe it would be very focused on something like transition of kids or maybe wider, IDK - it can be difficult to get any group of people all on the same page about everything. There is a real skill set involves in running something like that but if you know other people who think the same way, it might be something to consider.

VelvetChairGirl · 05/01/2022 20:41

@simmonslulu

A thread created in response to a post on another thread.

Any advice gratefully received

IMHO you cant, it really isnt about you, its about an agenda to empower men even more so and diminish womens rights.

if you raise your head above the parapet you will be denounced as fake trans or the wrong kind of trans and vilified.

as others have said try writing an opinion peace for a newspaper or something but dont expect it to be published by anyone who's already a fully paid up member of stonewall, they dont want to know and dont care.

candycane222 · 05/01/2022 21:58

Just to repeat what others have said, do what you are most comfortable with, and talk to other trans folks if you feel you can - even by asking questions or expressing uncertainty (though I see you have been given the cold shoulder by many, how depressing). I can imagine it must feel very lonely to be swimming against the tide but your argument that the more aggressive TRA agenda is making life uneccesarily hard for trans people, must surely resonate for many?

ShagMeRiggins · 05/01/2022 22:34

OP, what would you like to do? What are your instincts?

It seems as though you’d like to speak out against the extreme trans activists; I get the impression they are not representing you.

If that’s the case, make your voice and position heard.

Good advice has been given regarding writing to political representatives at all levels (tedious, repetitive, but it can have an impact); write to Baroness Nicholson, she’s always up for it; tweet or post whatever you feel you can (many here don’t out of fear to lose jobs and/or relationships, that might also apply to you); find as many people who feel the same, and organise them.

OhHolyJesus · 05/01/2022 22:54

Tell Stonewall.

Also, what does your username mean? 👀