Review of HP reunion in The Guardian…they just can’t help themselves

[OhDear2200]

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jan/01/harry-potter-20th-anniversary-return-to-hogwarts-review-perilously-close-to-emetic

I guess they at least note her absence. But can’t help say ‘widely considered as transphobic’. Just why? Why say anything.

The actor who played Luna gave JK a trouncing at one point so I’ll not believe any nonsense platitudes from her.

I don’t want to watch it. They’re a load of backstabbing, ungrateful brats. Padma Patil aside, not one of the “child actors” has stood up for her.

I didn’t watch it - although I was amazed so many of them wanted to be involved in a documentary about the work of such a transphobic person that they disagree with.

Some of them seem to think the whole world of Harry Potter sprung from nowhere. It’s just all a bit pathetic and it seems lots of people on the public eye will literally parrot anything back at the public so as not to be ‘cancelled.’

I think they’ve all decided that JKR is now separate from Harry Potter which is so unbelievably entitled.

Yes they’ve all got no shame in cashing in at all. The absolute bare faced cheek of them.

Chris Rankin, who played Percy Weasley, had a pop the other day, I’m sure to keep himself relevant. And all the while is doing a musical tour based on Harry Potter! It beggars belief!

[quote SusannaQueen]The Graun's FB post on this has some heartening comments. Was quite surprised as it's usually TRA central.

www.facebook.com/10513336322/posts/10160767806341323/[/quote]
Worth clicking for this piece of comedy genius

@Biscuitsneeded

Lucy Mangan most definitely knows what's what.

I agree. And I've no problem with the word 'emetic' either.

Self-seeking hypocrisy makes you sick too? I didn't think it could be only me.

"The actor who played Luna gave JK a trouncing at one point so I’ll not believe any nonsense platitudes from her."

I think you must have confused Evanna Lynch with someone else. She tried to defend JKR and was piled on by TRAs to the point where she had to deleted her Twitter account. I don't recall her attacking JKR at all.

Actually, I was interested in who didn't attend. Jason Isaacs was Covid-positive so couldn't, but it seemed to me that an awful lot of people weren't there.

Don’t think so. She says TWAW and that trans Harry Potter fans should block JKR. Also she thinks that JKR shouldn’t discuss this. Perhaps not as disloyal as the others but she didn’t just keep quiet did she?

And apparently “cis women aren’t the vulnerable minority here”

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/06/evanna-lynch-jk-rowling-transphobic-tweets/amp

Those three snivelling third rate twerps should surely renounce all royalties from the films as an act of true solidarity with the most oppressed ever© , er ..or are they happy to be living off the endeavors of a t**f...
Stonking cowards ..

Other than their unshakeable principles it seems to me like some of them need to move on anyway. Some of them (who are quick to bash Rowling) are still living entirely off Harry Potter, posting about it constantly, talking about it all the time etc.

Talk about something else, you’re thirty something years old. Like yes you were in Harry Potter - so were loads of people. What else did you do?

So they should no longer benefit from their own hard work because they dont agree with some things the writer of the books has said and have been vocal about that? They're not allowed to celebrate their own hard work, as well as all of their colleagues?

I've also just watched this - DP is a Potter fan while I was in the camp of "Lovely for the children" when they came out, because, well, life etc and I'm now in my 50s..... I came on here to see if there was any comment, and because I was quite sad at the lack of active inclusion of JKR, without whom none of this would have been possible.

It was an interesting little documentary to be fair, but I couldn't help but keep thinking how sad that these very successful young people could also be so tone deaf - they banged on about how inclusive and safe and family feeling the whole experience was, and can't see the irony in that...... things that have critiqued the books after JKRs essay have tried to make out it is steeped in exclusion and subtext from the get go - but was it really?

I dunno, I think it's an appalling indictment on the world today that, as far as I'm aware - and happy to be corrected if I've missed it - those young people have not at the very least denounced the harassment, death threats etc against the woman who gave them their springboard into their very successful lives.

@Blackbird1234

So they should no longer benefit from their own hard work because they dont agree with some things the writer of the books has said and have been vocal about that? They're not allowed to celebrate their own hard work, as well as all of their colleagues?

They should not try to have it both ways; either she and all her works are insufferable, or they are not. If they are, these little people should stop taking/keeping money that has only come their way because of what they deem insufferable; if they are not, these little people should not be so petty as to refuse association with the woman who gave them their big break.

And if she and all her works are insufferable, they DEFINITELY ought not to be celebrating the works while trying to pretend the person doesn't exist.

@Tanith

"The actor who played Luna gave JK a trouncing at one point so I’ll not believe any nonsense platitudes from her."

I think you must have confused Evanna Lynch with someone else. She tried to defend JKR and was piled on by TRAs to the point where she had to deleted her Twitter account. I don't recall her attacking JKR at all.

Actually, I was interested in who didn't attend. Jason Isaacs was Covid-positive so couldn't, but it seemed to me that an awful lot of people weren't there.

From Evanna Lynch interview - Metro 3 December 2021:

JK Rowling’s comments on trans people have attracted controversy. How do you feel about that?

I don’t understand what it feels like to be so affected by that so I fully respect when people have to protect their own emotions and their own mental health.

It does make me sad that this has happened and that people have had to step away from something that brought them comfort and joy.

Whatever her comments, I know Jo to be a super-compassionate and kind person and I still hope for healing. I don’t think that conversation is finished.

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime So if they find her - the person, not the businesswoman - insufferable, they need to give back all the money they've made with HP? Shit, I find my boss insufferable, guess I best quit and pay back all the money I've earned over the past 6 years. Also, they're adults.

[quote Blackbird1234]@Justme56 Out of interest, what makes you say that the actors are self obsessed?[/quote]
Since Justme hasn't answered, can I just say that it's everything they say and everything they do? You only need to read a few interviews. I've never understood why anyone fawns over 'gorgeous' actors – they so often seem like narcissists. Pretty faces, empty heads. Yuck.

[quote Blackbird1234]@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime So if they find her - the person, not the businesswoman - insufferable, they need to give back all the money they've made with HP? Shit, I find my boss insufferable, guess I best quit and pay back all the money I've earned over the past 6 years. Also, they're adults.[/quote]
Well no but you need to stand by your morals to an extend. You can’t rave about this ‘magical wonderful story world’ while publicly criticising and denouncing the woman who created it.

A lot of these actors are pretty irrelevant without Harry Potter but they should stand by their morals to some extent, instead of complimenting themselves for playing the characters while ignoring and criticising the woman who created them.

It all just feels a bit pathetic as well, like they’re so desperate to be ‘in’ with the fans that they’ll literally say anything if it’s the ‘right’ thing to say.

[quote Blackbird1234]@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime So if they find her - the person, not the businesswoman - insufferable, they need to give back all the money they've made with HP? Shit, I find my boss insufferable, guess I best quit and pay back all the money I've earned over the past 6 years. Also, they're adults.[/quote]
No, you don't need to pay your wages back but if your boss is the owner/ creator of a business which enables you to earn a wage they (assuming they abide by their side of the employment contract) are entitled to respect and a degree of loyalty.

If anyone feels there is a moral imperative to publicly trash their employer's reputation they really should look for another job first.

Just posting a Guardian announcement.

@MistressoftheDarkSide

I've also just watched this - DP is a Potter fan while I was in the camp of "Lovely for the children" when they came out, because, well, life etc and I'm now in my 50s..... I came on here to see if there was any comment, and because I was quite sad at the lack of active inclusion of JKR, without whom none of this would have been possible.

It was an interesting little documentary to be fair, but I couldn't help but keep thinking how sad that these very successful young people could also be so tone deaf - they banged on about how inclusive and safe and family feeling the whole experience was, and can't see the irony in that...... things that have critiqued the books after JKRs essay have tried to make out it is steeped in exclusion and subtext from the get go - but was it really?

I dunno, I think it's an appalling indictment on the world today that, as far as I'm aware - and happy to be corrected if I've missed it - those young people have not at the very least denounced the harassment, death threats etc against the woman who gave them their springboard into their very successful lives.

Yes Mistress, I agree with this especially your last paragraph. Over the years there have been many claims of lifelong friendships and mutual luvvie-ness from all the HP crowd, but when JKR could really do with support from those she stood with, it wasn't there.

Whether you're a Potter fan or not, the lack of human compassion and loyalty they've shown towards a friend is pretty poor.

I do enjoy Lucy Mangans writing (and miss her Tory boy commentary), but I’m not convinced if she actually would be team JKR. I’d love it if she was, maybe I’m taking this article the wrong way.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/aug/09/lucy-mangan-terf-war

@MistressoftheDarkSide yep, they could have very easily said 'I disagree with what she has said but the abuse she is receiving is unacceptable'.

But nothing. Lots of 'ignore the nasty lady and just enjoy the world she created' but no mention of the outright vilification she has received.

The fear of that ire being turned on them has meant that they have taken the easy route - keep your head down and maybe the crowd won't bay for your blood. Never mind about the woman they have claimed in the past to be their friend.

@MsGrumpytrousers If its "everything they do, everything they say" then perhaps it's safe to assume that you think that simply because you really don't like them? I rarely see any of them in the media at all and when I do see an interview of them, I don't get the same impression. Tom Cruise I've always hated and would say the same as you, however...

@Kanaloa I believe everyone is entitled to hold whatever view they like about their boss, as long as yes, they show them respect in the business world. The actors' views on JKR seem centred around this one topic that JKR spoke out about herself, a while after HP was finished and she was no longer their "boss". As far as I can tell they've all shown her respect in the business world plenty a time. JKR isn't permanently attached to this one thing, she is a whole person with more achievements than just HP - you can rave about the books whilst holding issue with the author, its not an either or.

Above was also in reply to @KimikosNightmare, sorry, damn tagging!