A trans-Identified BDSM fan/gun nut is now a senior leader at Girlguiding

[Scraggythang]

Via Glinner’s sub stack. Sorry if this has already been posted!

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There's always a bloody weapon in these things - huge knife on the wall above the door..

Have the Scouts made any comment about their safeguarding policies and this person's appointment? I'm equally concerned about boys being told that someone with these online sexualised and violent images is an appropriate role model for them.

@SapphosRock

This is actually insane. Is there no safeguarding at all at Girl Guides now?! Trans status is irrelevant this individual does not seem stable enough to be in charge of young girls.

Whilst I agree the safeguarding breach, is irrespective of whether or not this person is trans, to me them being trans is not a neutral issue.

Telling vulnerable young girls that a woman is a feeling in a man's head, or that their sex is comprised of gender stereotypes is something that 'the ultimate feminist organisation' should be actively campaigning against.

They cannot call themselves feminists, or pro-girls whilst advocating that it means nothing.

Actually yes Datun I agree with you.

All these so called feminist organisations have female CEOs and I wonder how much they truly believe in the policies imposed on them by trans activists.

We all know what happens to women who step out of line.

Sorry , me again- just shown that photograph to my husband whose comments were "Remember Dunblane" and "No child of his would be going anywhere near this person"

Yes. I know plenty of gunowners (live rurally). Not in a million years would any of them pose on social media with guns, airsoft, replicas or real.

@SapphosRock

This is actually insane. Is there no safeguarding at all at Girl Guides now?! Trans status is irrelevant this individual does not seem stable enough to be in charge of young girls.

I agree. Just applying the standards which would apply to any other person makes that person completely unsuitable.

The posing with guns is horrific. Like Arabella, I'm from a rural background. I know plenty of people who own guns and behave responsibly.

Also agree that 'trans' is entirely irrelevant here. Anyone posing in dominatrix/fetish gear and/or with guns, and posting those pictures openly on social media is not a behaving in a responsible manner and should not be in this position.

@ArabellaScott

Also agree that 'trans' is entirely irrelevant here. Anyone posing in dominatrix/fetish gear and/or with guns, and posting those pictures openly on social media is not a behaving in a responsible manner and should not be in this position.

I completely agree. This person being trans is far from the point here. This could be anyone dressing like this and posing with weapons and I would still think it wrong.

I've been told by our County that "she is just playing dress up, and it really isn't an issue because a GG Leader is never left alone with a girl. And this furore is only because she is Trans.". Completely missing the point and pushing it under the carpet.

Irrespective of gender, a senior, experienced youth work volunteer should not think it is appropriate to post such images on public SM, it's not one error of judgement.

Actually, I'm fairly sure if she was female or male she would have been dismissed. Pushing it under the carpet is precisely because she is Trans.

@espresso14 Amazing what you can get away with being one of the most oppressed members of society.

Looks like they’re going to double down. I’m SHOOK! 🙄

That what they want though? - no girls organisations.

she is just playing dress up, and it really isn't an issue because a GG Leader is never left alone with a girl. And this furore is only because she is Trans.

3 excuses for the price of one! Shame they contradict each other.

I would think those pics probably breach the bus company's social media policy, never mind GG.

I wouldn't want to be a passenger in a bus driven by a gun nut with boundary issues.

It isn’t really an issue because a Leader is never left alone with a [child] worked so well for the scouts in the past

Makes me wonder why they bother giving even lip service to safeguarding if thats the case

A “sod off you ignorant bigots! You know not of what you speak.” Would’ve sufficed.

never left alone with a child

But that is not how it works. How it works is as a leader you make sure you are never alone with a child. If you had nefarious purposes you would probably find it quite easy to engineer this.

God this has all the hallmarks of one of those situations where in 10, 20 years’ time people will be saying “how did they let that happen?”

I’ll bet my arse that if a woman (or a man) posted BDSM kink pics on social media they’d be out of there faster than a stream of lightning.

“Just dress up” WTF? That’s kind of worse than I expected from GG, and just sounds like complete and total sucking in to the whole ideology so far that their judgment is totally compromised. (Much like the individual concerned.)

On an organisational level, their board members must be deliberately ignoring the obvious. Literally every charity’s lawyers have been on at trustee boards for the last five years about learning lessons from the Kids’ Company debacle, and the dangers of not risk assessing properly, or getting caught up in institutional blindness. (Or if they aren’t, they need to be getting themselves some better lawyers.) The Charity Commission has been explicitly tightening up conflict of interest and regulatory guidelines specifically to guard against this. As a trustee, you’re supposed to put ideology aside to look absolutely objectively at risks to the organisation, including reputational risk and legal compliance. The very thing you aren’t meant to do is allow ideological beliefs or personal interest or opinions to influence your judgment.

I don’t know what on Earth their trustee board is doing with itself if it doesn’t think this situation is a problem. It makes me think I can’t trust anything about the organisation any more ☹️

she is just playing dress up, and it really isn't an issue because a GG Leader is never left alone with a girl.

Dress up in S&M gear is tickety boo, is it?

And what does being left alone have to do with bloody anything? What about role model, responsibility, good judgement, sensitivity, decorum?

What of the offer to show 'more' to the person who called themselves a 'baby trans'? That is just 'playing', too, is it?

@espresso14

I've been told by our County that "she is just playing dress up, and it really isn't an issue because a GG Leader is never left alone with a girl. And this furore is only because she is Trans.". Completely missing the point and pushing it under the carpet.

Irrespective of gender, a senior, experienced youth work volunteer should not think it is appropriate to post such images on public SM, it's not one error of judgement.

Actually, I'm fairly sure if she was female or male she would have been dismissed. Pushing it under the carpet is precisely because she is Trans.

Dear God.

1. Read The Damn GG Policy Mention of Guns.

2. Read the Bloody Safeguarding Policy

3. To NOT be aware of the history of a number of people who liked playing dress up with guns and it's involvement with safeguarding you'd have to be really quite dangerously naiive and really should not be in a position of responsibility.

4. Someone being Trans does not exempt them from all usual rules and policies and should not trigger an 'off' switch in your critical thought. This is phenomenally transphobic, and I can only imagine how most T people would feel at the implication that this whopping lack of judgement, safeguarding awareness and appropriate behaviour when working with children is just a normal part of being T. It's outrageously discriminatory.

I keep imagining the serious case review and cringing. Really bloody cringing.

I’ll bet my arse that if a woman (or a man) posted BDSM kink pics on social media they’d be out of there faster than a stream of lightning.

Do you remember a good few years ago in the early days of Big Brother there was a woman who was a primary school teacher? She lost her job for being on that and being seen naked.

@espresso14

I've been told by our County that "she is just playing dress up, and it really isn't an issue because a GG Leader is never left alone with a girl. And this furore is only because she is Trans.". Completely missing the point and pushing it under the carpet.

Irrespective of gender, a senior, experienced youth work volunteer should not think it is appropriate to post such images on public SM, it's not one error of judgement.

Actually, I'm fairly sure if she was female or male she would have been dismissed. Pushing it under the carpet is precisely because she is Trans.

The person who told you that needs safeguarding training.

I think you should tell their superiors if that's possible? Or anonymously whistleblow?

It's OK because Monica has multiple DBS checks according to Monica.
Monica knows exactly what Monica is doing.
I wouldn't trust a male person who pretends to be a woman with my children... and after listening to the State Media interview with Monica's vehement description of that 'nasty woman' I'm not sure Monica isn't a raging misogynist.

I think Monica doth protest rather too much.

It's nothing to do with being trans, it's to do with breaking the GG gun policy, and extremely questionable SM behaviour which is going to trigger safeguarding concerns if you're stupid enough to behave like that while working in a responsible position with children.

All a DSB shows is that there are no criminal convictions.

Quite! A DBS is only part of a safeguarding system

If Monica thinks posting about their tits, BDSM & photos with guns publicly on social media is appropriate behaviour then Monica has odd ideas about appropriate behaviour & an inability to see beyond their own wants

The Girlguiding Nottinghamshire “About us” page that was taken down when this came to light, with Monica on it, is now back up.

Presumably this means Girlguiding has concluded that Monica’s conduct isn’t a problem. That really does not surprise me.