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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TT Exulansic Youtube

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Fleek · 19/11/2021 14:58

I've been watching TT Exulansic's videos on YouTube having seen a link to them on here. I have learnt so much - what she is sharing is so necessary in terms of this debate. I'm also finding them really upsetting. I'm so shocked by what I've seen and just wanted to talk about them here. If you haven't watched any yet, please do.

I have a condition which has meant having plastic surgery to make my body look more 'normal'. I've had multiple, very painful surgeries which have left me in a degree of chronic pain but ultimately, I have achieved my goal in that I now have a much more normal looking body which it is easier to go through life with. These surgeries have had a clear medical benefit beyond my appearance being changed, just to be clear. I have a medical condition which has objective markers. There is evidence having gone through these surgeries, I will now have better physical health in my old age and will be less likely to experience certain complications which the condition can end up causing so the benefits definitely aren't just cosmetic - it's just the cosmetic benefits meant a lot to me as a patient. My body was 'wrong' and that was badly affecting my mental health and so I've put myself through a lot to make it look 'right.'

So there I am with having gone through this journey and so I think watching these videos on YT feels that little bit more personal in some ways, even though I don't have gender dysphoria and my surgeries were completely different. I knew already that things like constructing a 'penis' out of someone's arm was utterly barbaric and had a high failure rate and I knew there could be complications with attempting to construct a vagina. I just had no idea how frequently there were complications and how dangerous this journey is. I suddenly have the view that it must be almost impossible to go through them safely - at the very least you are risking fissures and strictures and those can lead to serious complications. Just taking testosterone is likely to lead to heart damage, too. There are going to be so many people who go through these operations and who die prematurely because they end up with sepsis or other infections.

I just watched the latest video on Jazz. I felt sick to my stomach at that one in particular. How has this poor kid got any kind of future? Jazz is severely depressed, 150 pounds overweight, has no sexual functioning at all, has already experienced multiple surgeries and complications and is likely to experience more. It's a crime to be doing this to vulnerable young people. If Jazz hadn't had these surgeries, we'd be looking at a young man embarking on a degree at Harvard, perhaps at the beginning of a journey where he felt comfortable with his sex and his sexuality. He'd be out having fun. My surgeries were so incredibly tough but on balance, they were worth it and while I'm in pain here and there, I don't have any additional complications which will actually threaten my life. That isn't the case with trans surgeries. Surgeons are literally butchering healthy bodies. They must know they are. How have things been allowed to go in this direction? (I know the answer to that really)

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heathspeedwell · 08/02/2022 11:12

Great to hear she's back on YouTube, will check out Odysee too.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 08/02/2022 12:06

Gosh, it's a rollercoaster, youtubing, isn't it?

I saw Benjamin Boyce had a bit of a moan about the whole thing.

I'll stick with books and MN!

DontLikeCrumpets · 08/02/2022 22:28

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BraveBananaBadge · 09/02/2022 00:07

On YouTube I just saw a post from Karen Davis with a link saying "they have gone after" Exulansic's Patreon, with a link to a PayPal.

In the time it took for me to check if the link was legit that had gone down too, I think?

None of this can be a coincidence... This is really very worrying.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/02/2022 07:52

@Goldshelfie

She seems to be back up on YouTube now, it looks like she's having to start over which is shit but at least she is back.
Is she?

Great!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/02/2022 07:56

Do you have a link to her new account Goldshelfie - I can't find it.

LangificusClegasaurous · 09/02/2022 09:42

Here is her new, as yet sparsely furnished channel. It's hard to find, isn't it...

www.youtube.com/channel/UC4erp55pYhAF3boUP5ADTeg/videos

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 09/02/2022 10:14

Very hard. Thanks for the link.

Isn't it interesting that they are silencing her?

SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/02/2022 17:00

[quote LangificusClegasaurous]Here is her new, as yet sparsely furnished channel. It's hard to find, isn't it...

www.youtube.com/channel/UC4erp55pYhAF3boUP5ADTeg/videos[/quote]
Cheers!

It was a bugger to find.

ClareCAIS · 10/02/2022 07:24

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 10/02/2022 08:58

@ClareCAIS I do think she over reaches.

Some of her content is excellent and I agree, some of the information about DSDs is factually incorrect.

You make an excellent point.

BraveBananaBadge · 10/02/2022 09:47

It seems it was the CAIS content that got her account terminated? I must admit I got lost in the acronyms and hadn't been watching those ones as it went over my head a bit.

I listened to The Mess We're In last night and Glinner was very cagey and almost reluctant in expressing support for Exulansic in general over it. There also seems to be an argument over an offensive cartoon?

It feels like I'm missing something?

Abhannmor · 10/02/2022 13:50

Yes Glinner basically said he disagrees with her on DSDs. But he left it there. I think he didn't want to pox her chances of getting back. I'm sure there's loads of ppl on the GC team I wouldn't enjoy a beer with. But that's not the point.

IntersexTruther · 10/02/2022 14:45

I would like to clarify a few things. They suspended the account Ex due to threats and doxing attempts, among other legitimate reasons. See here.

Many Jewish people find it offensive that she used anti-Semitism as a diversionary tactic (she's not Jewish). A cartoon such as this is considered offensive. Is there a rule that you cannot insult somebody who has made sexually harassing material against a woman with a very rare condition? Which includes making fun of body parts and spreading propaganda about a medical condition (cais) that has been understood for over 60 years? As a member of a small minority of chronically ill individuals do we have any right to defend ourselves. Is every GC Beyond reproach?

ClareCAIS · 10/02/2022 16:04

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BraveBananaBadge · 10/02/2022 17:39

Thanks for the clarification IntersexTruther. I wasn't clear as to what had gone on.

Motorina · 10/02/2022 19:03

Is every GC Beyond reproach?

No, and Exulansic has come in for criticism here and on at least one other thread, by me and others.

I confess I haven't watched her DSD stuff. I tried to find it in light of the comments above, but stumbled on something about CAIS bro conspiracy and racially motivated cartoons, which I don't think can be what you're referring to? I'm mangling the title horribly, I know. It was just... odd. Her ranting about a cartoon of her, with her putting foundation on to show she was really very white after all. Very very strange indeed.

Part of me thinks if you're going to make critiqueing videos of other people, including intercutting their content with disney villains, you can't be over-surprised to get the same back. If you can't stand the heat, and all that...

BraveBananaBadge · 10/02/2022 19:09

I think our first thoughts (or mine at least) were that she had been brought down by a targeted TRA campaign and was a GC voice being silenced for speaking out. It turns out something quite different has been going on.

IntersexTruther · 10/02/2022 19:29

Actually I haven't gotten any heat. I've gotten thank you notices and donations from the family of the person who she defamed. My only problem with her is her personal sexualized exploitation of women with CAIS. Otherwise we agree on things like puberty blockers and Jazz Jennings. She specifically said that the professor had anti-semitic views which was a lie. And that's what got her on YouTube bad list. Her own actions take responsibility for your own actions.

Motorina · 10/02/2022 19:40

@IntersexTruther - the whole paragraph on 'if you can't stand the heat' is aimed at Exulansic, not you! Given the content she's posting she really can't complain if the worst she gets back is an unflattering cartoon.

IntersexTruther · 10/02/2022 19:59

SorryWink these threads become confusing.

ClareCAIS · 10/02/2022 20:10

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Motorina · 10/02/2022 22:47

Looking like the new account has gone too

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 11/02/2022 00:15

I would not want that, @ClareCAIS.

I did think it sounded like she had done a lot of reading but had not got the clinical experience to match. I'm not sure that a SALT would need very much endocrinology.

I think she is very passionate but needs to be mindful of her scope of practice, check her references and do a bit of reflection on this.

Motorina · 11/02/2022 08:21

I did think it sounded like she had done a lot of reading but had not got the clinical experience to match

Previous thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4455460-Exulansic-on-a-live-stream-now-on-Youtube

On page 1 I made exactly the same point about when she touched on my own speciality.

I think this is one of the flaws of her content. She's so bright and wellread she thinks she knows stuff (and sounds very convincing) but she lacks the clinical experience to contextualise it.

As an aside, it's worth noting that, in her latest - fairly confused - video, she names @IntersexTruther as one of the people responsible for getting her youtube closed. I wanted to point it out given that it is IntersexTruther who has shared why she considers Exulansic was banned. I'm entirely outside this, so have no idea where the truth lies, but I just wanted to flag up that IntersexTruther isn't an unbiased source.