Trans professor is placed on leave after interview defending pedophiles

[PandorasMailbox]

Oh dear, how very sad.

Don't let them back in!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10210713/Trans-professor-placed-leave-controversially-defending-pedophiles.html#comments

As well - ‘engrossing and high quality child pornography.’ what on earth is that supposed to mean?

Worrying to read that the uni originally stood by this person then changed their mind after a backlash and lots of complaints. Makes you think what their real thoughts on the matter are. Still, it’s good that so many still spoke out and removed this person.

@PickAChew

It baffles me how calling them "minor attracted persons" destigmatises anyone. It spells out how warped and sleazy they are in plain English.

It’s to try an create an equivalence with sexual orientation.

It’s the image that these minor ‘attracted’ persons can’t help that attraction. It’s also implants the idea that this occurs in women as well as men. Which is bs. While there are a few women who abuse children it’s a teeny teeny %. It sanitises the idea in peoples minds if they think women do this too, it removes the image of a peadophile being a man, with all the danger we know comes with them, and it gives the counter image of nurturing women who can’t help this ‘attraction’ either.

@Gastonia

Surely, with other things, seeing more of something makes you want more of it. If you want to give something up, you avoid coming into contact with it.

Brain development is use dependent. So using ‘barely legal’ porn or child sex dolls to fuel sexual fantasies about raping children only connects up the neural pathways that reinforce and escalate these fantasies.

Then the fantasies don’t provide enough feedback from this stimulation loop and it requires images of children being abused, then contact with children, then hands on abuse, to provide the same stimulation.

So it escalates.

“Viewing 'engrossing and high-quality child pornography,' Walker argued, is a viable method to help those attracted to children 'maintain abstinence from sexual contact with children'“

If Walker can’t see that if so called non active paedophiles view this pornography then children will have been subjected to other paedophiles in order to make it, then she needs sacking anyway for not having the critical thinking skills expected of a lecturer.

Sorry, that quote was from
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10210713/Trans-professor-placed-leave-controversially-defending-pedophiles.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10210713/Trans-professor-placed-leave-controversially-defending-pedophiles.html#commentsB

What the fuck am I reading…

@Doubletoilandtrouble

That is absolutely disgusting, recommending that creeps view images of child sexual abuse to “help the poor creeps MAPs feel better”.

To use a public position to push for child sexual abuse is awful. This is one of the situations where I actually do not believe in free speech.

I wonder if this person thought that their trans status would protect them?

They aren't called Teflon Trans for nothing...

The moral disgustingness of what they suggest aside, what does their trans status have to do with it?

Why is making people who want to sexually abuse children feel better supposed to be a good thing?

They should feel horrified to be monsters who want to harm children & anyone who wants to make them feel better about it should be ashamed of themselves.

I don't want them to feel better about what they are.
I want them to be as disgusted at themselves as I am, as repulsed as any poor child who has to endure that abuse is.

Nothing is going to sanitise that level of evil & no decent society should support helping child abusers get a hard on so they can get their rocks off over ruining a childs life.

Jesus H Christ almighty.
What next?
Stop making rapists feel bad?
Don’t be mean to murderers?
Genocide apologists?

But women who dare to speak up about the safety and dignity of women and children…they get silenced

They aren't called Teflon Trans for nothing...

On the positive side, there have been a number of cases recently where Teflon Trans has encountered harsh and abrasive material reality and has proved to provide far less protection than had been expected.

@IntermittentParps

The moral disgustingness of what they suggest aside, what does their trans status have to do with it?

Gender ideology is all about removing boundaries, sterilising language, removing women and children’s safeguards.

The ‘map &nomap’ groups have been linking themselves to trans issues for decade+ now on Twitter.

It's also unfortunate for the university that the professor uses "they/them" pronouns, as it's easy to read the news reports about this and to assume that the professor and the university are collectively stating the professor's views.

'Minor-attracted individuals' is a huge red flag. This person also seems to think that pornography is merely an outlet, and not a fuel, for sexual desire. Even more worrying when 'pornography' in this scenario involves actual child abuse.

@AssassinatedBeauty

If you replace the phrase "child pornography" with "images of child sexual abuse" it makes it very much clearer what this professor is asking for as a form of "therapy".

JFC on a bicycle. How far do these people have to go before someone says 'actually, no'?

Thank you, BloodinGutters.

So, genuine question (I have not heard the phrase 'map &nomap' before; forgive me, I'm going to educate myself):
the ‘map &nomap’ groups have been attaching themselves to trans issues; does that happen the other way round too? ie does the trans community ally themselves with 'map &nomap' groups? Or are they an unwanted 'parasite' to trans groups?

@HKI83vcWA

Jesus H Christ almighty. What next? Stop making rapists feel bad? Don’t be mean to murderers? Genocide apologists?

But women who dare to speak up about the safety and dignity of women and children…they get silenced

Well, we did have a debate in the HoL this week focussing on how best to support rapists in women's prisons, so ...

Well they’ve got a point. Since any flavour porn is now 2 seconds away from any mobile enabled device, sexual violence against women has after all almost vanished.

Oh. Wait.

I haven't read the thesis, but my brief glance at the DM article tells me that they personally didn't advocate using child porn as harm reduction, but were talking about how others had done so in a review of the literature. If it were in their own list of recommendations that's different, but reviewing literature shouldn't be taboo.

Crime prevention have discussed things like using sex dolls as a potential harm reduction strategy, a police officer once asked me about it (I didn't know as it's not my area).

I don't think throwing stones at this person is helpful in preventing child sexual abuse at all. Demonizing and stigmatising child sex abuse is our natural instinct but it doesn't help us identify who does these things, how to treat or deal with them criminally, it just drives this further underground and into the darker recesses of the internet where it is flourishing extensively.

Who the hell uses the phrase "child pornography" nowadays?

It’s the term still used in US law & law enforcement, unfortunately.

Demonizing and stigmatising child sex abuse is our natural instinct but it doesn't help us identify who does these things, how to treat or deal with them criminally, it just drives this further underground and into the darker recesses of the internet where it is flourishing extensively.
I can't disagree with this, uncomfortable as it is. Just calling it 'evil', too, makes it something 'other' and that cannot and should not be understood, which I'm not sure is the best approach.

How the fuck does this person think that "child pornography" is produced?!

What about the rights of the abused children:

(a) not to be abused; and
(b) if they are abused, not to have creeps obsessively wanking over the video

It's bad enough that some rapes actually make it onto porn sites, but a thousand times worse if such rapes were to be legally sanctioned and of children.

The 'driving things underground' argument doesn't wash when it comes to sexual abuse. Wherever there is legalised prostitution there is more demand, more abuse, more slavery, more demand for extreme acts and breaking taboos. The more society widens the boundaries the more these men push and push at them.

I would usually read the book first before forming an opinion, but I really don’t think I can bring myself to do that on this occasion.

@nauticant

They aren't called Teflon Trans for nothing...

On the positive side, there have been a number of cases recently where Teflon Trans has encountered harsh and abrasive material reality and has proved to provide far less protection than had been expected.

The non-binary eggs are starting to stick