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OneSugar1 · 10/11/2021 22:06

I was born early 70s too. I certainly don’t remember lesbianism being framed as akin to racism, which is essentially what Stonewall has done recently.

Shame on them for throwing under the bus a significant proportion of the people they were supposed to support, and for continuing to try to exploit them now in order to cling to their unelected power.

name3958 · 10/11/2021 22:10

Now if only my government department would stop, I've refused the training thus far but dread to think what we pay.

MiladyBerserko · 10/11/2021 22:11

Women of Mumsnet, take a Fucking Bow

mobile.twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1458499166351601676

Blueskip · 10/11/2021 22:13

@CruellaDeVilla

And unintentional irony here:

“Our work continues until the world we imagine is the world we live in”

I was just coming on to point this out!

They couldn't have written a truer word!

ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 22:59

[quote MiladyBerserko]Women of Mumsnet, take a Fucking Bow

mobile.twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1458499166351601676[/quote]
Star

MiladyBerserko · 10/11/2021 23:06

I've lost track of what has been posted, but here is The Times article, published this evening

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fbca915a-424f-11ec-96bf-de0821791f3f?shareToken=ef50bdc898f7e0490da8c64bef17de1f

littlebilliie · 10/11/2021 23:16

#NHS I would take note in the Times. Most beloved of words mother denigrated

"Documents released under the Freedom of Information Act have revealed how Stonewall has, for example, instructed public bodies to remove gendered wordss_ such as “mother” from their HR policies and to support campaigns on their official social media accounts in order to climb the rankings of its Top 100 LGBT-friendly employers."

Times

littlebilliie · 10/11/2021 23:17

@name3958

Now if only my government department would stop, I've refused the training thus far but dread to think what we pay.
I'm starting to wonder if this was a funding drive
FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 05:17

On the subject of LGB views not being allowed, more sunlight will come during the 2 day Tribunal sometime between 28 February – 27 May 2022, Mermaids appeal against the Charity Commissions and LGB Alliance.

FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 05:24

BBC quits Stonewall diversity scheme over impartiality concerns
www.theguardian.com/media/2021/nov/10/bbc-quits-stonewall-diversity-scheme-impartiality-concerns-transgender-issues

BBC pulls out of Stonewall diversity scheme
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59232736

BBC Leaves Stonewall And Tells LGBTQ Staff: ‘We’re Not Impartial On Human Rights’
www.forbes.com/sites/jamiewareham/2021/11/10/bbc-defends-leaving-stonewall-we-are-not-impartial-on-human-rights/

FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 05:30

"Last year, BBC journalists were also told they could attend Pride marches only if they did not take a stance on “politicised or contested issues” – widely interpreted by LGBTQ+ staff as meaning no public position on trans rights."

BBC leaving Stonewall has been in air ever since the change in direction to be impartial in all areas, including LGBT

FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 05:37

Trying to interpret this sentence whether the BBC needs to be ‘impartial on trans people’s lives’. I want to be clear, our impartiality is infused with democratic values and we are not impartial on human rights. from the Guardian article

"The BBC director general, Tim Davie, told staff it was “unquestionable” that its ongoing participation in the scheme “has led some organisations and individuals to consider that the BBC cannot be impartial when reporting on public policy debates where Stonewall is taking an active, campaigning, role”."

"Davie acknowledged many LGBT and trans staff would be disappointed by the decision to withdraw from the scheme.

He said: “Some have asked me whether the BBC needs to be ‘impartial on trans people’s lives’. I want to be clear, our impartiality is infused with democratic values and we are not impartial on human rights. In simple terms, what that means is that we don’t condone or support discrimination in any form.”

However, he also said the treatment of trans people in society was an impartiality topic in the eyes of the BBC, unlike others such as gay rights or the climate crisis.

“Our editorial guidelines are also clear: when reporting on policy debates, our journalism must be impartial and reflect a range of views. I want our reporting to cover a range of topics and different perspectives, to help our audiences understand and engage with the world around them.”"

WarriorN · 11/11/2021 06:10

The problem is many see lgbt as a homogeneous group. So won't understand this. (listen to Nolan!)

It's the T that is the issue.

I suppose it remains to Be seen if people will work that out.

FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 07:26

Why are these labour MPs siding with Stonewall?
Nadia Whittome MP
Zarah Sultana MP
Angela Rayner MP

It's weird seeing female labour MP's uncritically calling the BBC's withdrawal an "attack on Stonewall" and human rights, akin to racism, apartheid etc etc.

We know that women, including many lesbians, have raised concerns with them yet their tweets in the last 20 hours show they're not listening

TeamRex · 11/11/2021 07:35

Why are these labour MPs siding with Stonewall?
Nadia Whittome MP
Zarah Sultana MP
Angela Rayner MP

It's depressing isn't it? They are too stupid to understand that the BBC cannot report on lgbt issues impartially if they are taking their rules from Stonewall.

They obviously haven't listened to the podcast or had anyone summarise the key points to them.

FreeBritnee · 11/11/2021 07:40

[quote MiladyBerserko]Women of Mumsnet, take a Fucking Bow

mobile.twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1458499166351601676[/quote]
You lot peaked me. So take a bow indeed.

SirSamuelVimes · 11/11/2021 07:42

Three cheers for the Mumsnet radicalisation portal! No wonder the TRAs hate us so much.

Grumpyosaurus · 11/11/2021 08:00

@SirSamuelVimes

Three cheers for the Mumsnet radicalisation portal! No wonder the TRAs hate us so much.
Three cheers indeed. I've learned so much on this board.
treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:07

GB News is nothing to be proud of though tbh.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/11/2021 08:07

Yep Angela rayner et al demonstrating with monotonous regularity why Labour won’t be governing anytime soon

twitter.com/angelarayner/status/1458468230733914118?s=21

FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 08:21

3 cheers for Mumsnet AND all the women & groups who made it happen, including:

@fairplaywomen
@WomansPlaceUK
@BluskyeAllison
@jk_rowling
@bindelj
@SexMattersOrg
@ALLIANCELGB
@Transgendertrd
@Docstockk
@HJoyceGender
@SafeSchools_UK
@ForwomenScot
@janeclarejones

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2021 08:34

@SirSamuelVimes

Three cheers for the Mumsnet radicalisation portal! No wonder the TRAs hate us so much.
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!
McDuffy · 11/11/2021 08:37

A senior male colleague of mine (with significant policy influence) told me that I had made him totally rethink the issue. We take what we learn here into the real world and it makes a difference! Thanks, wise ones.

Sidehustle99 · 11/11/2021 08:41

This is an amazing achievement - what a powerful force. So proud of the women in this group.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 11/11/2021 08:44

Yup! Yet another one radicalised by Mumsnet here! Thank you, vipers! Flowers

It was the Girlguides that did it for me. Thank you @katiealcock Flowers and best of luck with the court case.

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