Jess Phillips says no constituent has ever raised this issue with her?

[Femnisaurus]

So Jess says, in this live debate, this is not an issue which is ever raised by her constituents.... I find that hard to believe 🤷🏼‍♀️

Any constituents on MN?

twitter.com/intelligence2/status/1456250442925678597?s=21

I'm not a Labour voter (or supporter) but find it sad that someone like her can't stand up for women, give the party a kick up the arse and get voters back on board. Pathetic kowtowing to the woke brigade.

She's a moral coward. If she had any courage she'd speak up for Rosie Duffield. But she doesn't. She was so crap on here at the last election. Her answer seems to be "I have more important things to deal with so I'm not going to answer"
Maybe she should take five minutes to prepare a stock answer of "biological women are a sex class"

Maybe I'm overly cynical but I don't think (m)any MPs can operate without telling any lies but what I expect is lies not be bare-faced and easily disprovable. I can cope with an MP being (a bit) dishonest but being so and not even trying to be plausible is an MP showing contempt for their constituents.

Angry. Just so angry watching that. She’s also clearly fuming. Jess Phillips only cares up to the point, where women’s safety and rights do not conflict with her personal aims. I already knew this. But the lies. I’m not a constituent. All this rage inside me and unable to do anything about it.

Please anyone, who is, stand up to her gaslighting if you have the strength. Stand in the sun.

People who’ve been raped

People who have been victims of male violence

WOMEN

Throne of lies. So it is

Ella Whelan had just mentioned Kathleen Stock's name before JP's response which included the Katherine Stock, is it? I apologise, I don't even know her name It appeared to me to be a (rather unconvincing) performance.

In a way, people like JP are part of the problem for women, when they rabbit on about women and girl's refuge spaces in a way that includes males. It will mean that at least some of the very women and girls she/he/furry purports to champion will be too frightened/traumatised to access those mixed sex spaces. Or, may be made vulnerable to experience further stress, sexual harassment and/or trauma.

@Imnobody4

This is the preceding clip of what Ella Whelan said. twitter.com/intelligence2/status/1456249333465030656?t=WOHISvAAuoz5ICrRJSXHyA&s=19

JP just rants in a dismissingly 'frustrated at the idiocy of people' way. It's pathetic.
The debate was 'Is Labour unelectable?'
At start

The numbers from our opening vote are in!

Is Labour unelectable?

42% Yes
25% No
33% Undecided

Stay tuned to see if our speakers can change the audience's mind for the final vote #iq2

At the end

The final vote is in!

Is Labour unelectable?

52% Yes
41% No
7% Undecided

A big swing to No from our audience! That's all for tonight - Goodnight from London!

I am not surprised at all by the 'Yes' results. The issue is that Labour and more radical, left wing activists effectively made a debate on social issues very difficult, if not impossible, by believing their position is also the only one that is morally possible, and any opposing view must be a result of homophobia, racism, transphobia etc.

The beginning of it was visible in Brexit debate, which highlighted how disconnected Labour was from the working class. Majority of objection to the UK's membership in the EU were seen as being rooted in racism and 'little England' mentality. This might be true for some, but working classes in the UK also bore the brunt of the negative effect of immigration (whilst not profiting from positives) - such as stagnation of wages due to constant supply of workforce, neglect of apprenticeship programs for traditional working class positions etc.

Don't get me wrong - I am Polish and I'd rather the UK to be a part of the EU, but I also recognize there might be downsides to it. A lot of Labour/Left believed their morally superior stance was enough to secure the remain win, as they believed it was ethical choice rather than one with economic consequences for working class voters. Tory/Right did not really offer that much of dialogue either as they focused on other benefits/issues, but at least offered what those voters saw as a solution to their problems.

I am ranting about this because we see continuation of this in the race and gender debate now (and to be fair it is happening in the US as well, it's not a UK specific thing). There is almost no debate possible, anyone even challenging even a bit the issues is sees as a second coming of Hitler and any opposition is seen as a vote for authoritarian, facist regime, which is absurd. This is what is keeping Labour constantly behind Tories, despite utter incompetence, waste of public money, corruption of the current government. The fact that we waste our time defending basic biological FACTS instead of climate change, children poverty, state of roads, collapsing of social services makes me very pessimistic about the future.

Sorry for the rant! :)

It was a splendid rant, Epli!

On my phone so difficult to see who said what- but MPs should absolutely set the tone in their offices as to what they see, and don’t see. If staff are hiding emails from MPs and the MP finds out then the staffer should be sacked.

MPs by convention only answer their own constituents- so they don’t have to deal with too many people. That’s why they ask for a name and address.
If that name/address were to be used for anything else (passed on to another organisation including the political party) that would be breaking the law. The MP and their office have to abide by GDPR and other data protection laws.

MPs do receive emails about GC issues- though not as many as you might think- and from both sides of the debate.

I work for an MP. He sees every single email sent to him- whether we as staff agree with the sentiment or not- that’s the office policy. Of course some MPs will tell staff to delete some emails. MPs are under no obligation to answer their constituents.

Kathleen stock was in the news, but we received only 1 email about it. But she had been into parliament recently to talk to a committee, and lots of MPs were aware of her case- not least because it was raised in parliament- including during the tributes to David Amess.

Jess Philips is interested in Jess Philips. She’ll make her position clearer when she sees which way the wind is blowing.

Jess Philips is interested in Jess Philips. She’ll make her position clearer when she sees which way the wind is blowing.

Yes. I confidently expect a reverse-ferret from Jess very soon now. The Great British Public is increasingly aware of what's been going on and is not impressed.

@antoniawhite

Please, please don't vote Tory though because of this and because Labour are a mess. They have done so much damage, caused so many deaths and misery, and will cause more. There are other options.

I have always voted Labour, always always supported them. I was heartbroken when Boris won and actually cried.

And I feel absolutely sick when I think that if Jeremy corbyn had won, we would already have self ID. I prayed and campaigned and argued for JC, but if he had won, all this would be charging ahead full throttle, no one would be challenging mermaids or stonewall, we would have lost our sex based rights and probably would only just be finding out....

Scarey.

@ScribblingPixie

I remember her mother berating me in the street when my son passed the 11 plus, 12 months later guess where her 11 year old son was going to school. Jess also went to a very selective girls grammar.

It's terrible that what works for politicians is having a 'schtick' when we are crying out for intelligent, brave, capable leaders.

It was sort of worth the lecture I got on the evils of the 11 plus and grammar schools to watch her squirm 12 months later. As a neighbour I just asked where he was going thinking it would probably not be the nearest comp as it was boys only and I thought she'd go a bit further for the mixed one. As she squirmed and tried to justify her u turn, which had obviously happened in less than a year as they'd entered him for the exam, he'd sat the exam and been allocated a school since my telling off, I just kept grinning at her and nodding. She got more and more worked up.

Sorry I shouldn't be making fun of the dead.

I can't go on twitter at the moment so am replying blind to this really, but
I have had a meeting with Jess as one of her constituents and raised most issues to do with GC issues. In particular prisons.

Maybe some MP's now make it clear that their staff should not bring certain correspondence to their attention. Maybe some MP's now gently hint that their staff should make certain types of correspondence disappear.

And indeed they could truthfully state they have never come across the points raised in the 'disappeared' correspondence.

I have had a meeting with Jess as one of her constituents and raised most issues to do with GC issues. In particular prisons.

Ugh she's such a liar. Could you remind her of this?

@Norma27

I can't go on twitter at the moment so am replying blind to this really, but I have had a meeting with Jess as one of her constituents and raised most issues to do with GC issues. In particular prisons.

Would you be prepared to go to the press with this?

I know lots of women are scared about raising this but surely children’s safeguarding has to come before that

I give no shits about what may happen were I to be outed as gc, i am already out on Facebook and the like. But plenty of women will be too scared of losing their job, losing friends, losing support networks etc.
It's not because they dont care about children and other women, its because it's scary, really scary. When you see TRAs on Twitter brandishing swords and bats wrapped with barbed wire and wearing tshirts that say kill all terfs and the like. It is scary as hell. I dont particularly want to end up in hospital or dead. Those who can safely come out and say what they can , they should. Those who cannot should stay safe.

Jess reacts to the word cowardice with fury in that video. She looks enraged!

If your ridiculous policy is generating conflict then the solution is not to say you can't be bothered with the conflict, it's to reflect on the cause of the conflict.

She can see the conflict on twitter but claims that there is no conflict being raised with her.

I listened to Jess recently at presentation about the gender pay gap. She was the opening speaker.

She just talked non stop unscripted. It was rubbish. Embarrassing. The chair of the group responsible came on after to thank her but was clearly unimpressed at the me me me waffle.

Over rated.

Jess reacts to the word cowardice with fury in that video. She looks enraged!

I have my reservations about JP. Nonetheless I'm cutting all MPs slack about the word cowardice given the recent murder of Sir David Amess and the understandable reaction by MPs and their families to this tragedy.

Jess Philips is interested in Jess Philips. She’ll make her position clearer when she sees which way the wind is blowing.

She already has. She supports self ID, helped write the document that demanded changes and wants rid of spousal veto.

I don’t know how much clearer she can make her position.

I agree she has already made her position clear.

I was terribly disappointed when she came out as pro trans to the point of anti woman and supportive of removal of the spousal veto. She seemed so promising a few years ago.

Perhaps she took a great deal of time in the beginning to prepare her speeches. I think now she just isn’t terribly bright.

She`s weaving a very tangled web for herself if the wind does happen to change, and politicians are forced to confront the nonsense they have been spouting at the behest of Stonewall. Will be interesting to see her try and back out of her rabbit hole.

Jess is a big fan of identity politics.
hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2016-12-01/debates/38CFE29B-D261-45DF-9C31-0546E3CBC3B8/PointsOfOrder

Bill Presented

Gender Identity (Protected Characteristic)

Presentation and First Reading (Standing Order No. 57)

Mrs Maria Miller, supported by Jess Phillips, Mrs Flick Drummond and Ben Howlett, presented a Bill to make gender identity a protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010 in place of gender reassignment and to make associated provision for transgender and other persons; and for connected purposes.

Bill read the First time; to be read a Second time on Friday 24 February, and to be printed (Bill 106).

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus

Jess reacts to the word cowardice with fury in that video. She looks enraged!

I have my reservations about JP. Nonetheless I'm cutting all MPs slack about the word cowardice given the recent murder of Sir David Amess and the understandable reaction by MPs and their families to this tragedy.

I hadn't thought of that but you are right and she has had alot of threats if I remember correctly. I think Diane Abbott probably has the worst time.