BBC responds to backlash to article about lesbians being pressured into sex by some trans women

[FindTheTruth]

BBC spokesperson said: “The article looks at a complex subject from different perspectives and acknowledges it is difficult to assess the extent of the issue.

“It includes testimony from a range of different sources and provides appropriate context. It went through our rigorous editorial processes.

“It is important that journalism looks at issues - even where there are strongly held positions. The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide a range of voices are heard.”

attitude.co.uk/article/bbc-responds-to-backlash-to-article-about-lesbians-being-pressured-into-sex-by-some-trans-women-1/26090/

"[OJ] If you'd like to know more about how journalism works there are free resources"

@Lovelyricepudding

"[OJ] If you'd like to know more about how journalism works there are free resources"

[applause]

That whole exchange is

PurgatoryOfPotholes

An even better mic drop!

[quote ErrolTheDragon]And here's a tweet apparently comparing abused lesbians to Goerbels (sic... followed by levity on the misspelling). I'd honestly have expected better from a barrister who specialises in discrimination.

twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1453771592073457677?s=20[/quote]
Moira robin that comes on here to tell us all.

That whole Twitter feed is just so horrid

@MamsellMarie

Parts of Tim Davie's speech 'We debate the latest political shenanigans, internal dramas and the latest press flare-up as though these things represent what matters. This is dangerous. It means that we can take our eyes off the key issue of how much value we are delivering to each member of the public, and the UK as a whole' ..... ie they are not following Twitter etc

'Our ambition is to create an organisation which reflects more accurately the society we serve. That’s 50% women and 50% men, at least 20% Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic, and at least 12% Disabled. A modern 50/20/12 organisation. Alongside this, we will deliver plans to build our socioeconomic diversity, as well as ensuring we are truly inclusive for all LGBTQ+ employees.'

Hooray - no one 'minority' trumps all others.

Well, of the identity groups they think are important.

Surely you would look up how to spell Goebbels? It doesn't inspire massive confidence in your understanding of the politics of totalitarian hatred does it?

I’m sure next time Robin posts here we can all ask how you spell Goebbels.

@Christmas101

Surely you would look up how to spell Goebbels? It doesn't inspire massive confidence in your understanding of the politics of totalitarian hatred does it?

Well robin uses the male spelling of theys name so …..

Just seen this on Twitter.
Genuinely belly laughed reading it.

It was landed “a story in two parts”

Hahaha. The cognitive dissonance is just so stunning isn't it?

When people are trying to undermine the character of someone who has been raped to discredit
their experience, you don't even have to give them any rope, they just grab all the rope they can for themselves.

@Datun

When people are trying to undermine the character of someone who has been raped to discredit their experience, you don't even have to give them any rope, they just grab all the rope they can for themselves.

Perfectly put.

Yes but it's weird how everyone else can see it but the person hanging on the rope seems oblivious.

@Readingette

Just seen this on Twitter. Genuinely belly laughed reading it.

It was landed “a story in two parts”

The sequel

@Blueskip

Yes but it's weird how everyone else can see it but the person hanging on the rope seems oblivious.

I guess because they keep blocking everyone, as OJ has just done.

OJ's example there to compare is very weird. Because I would say really, it's not quite the same as what this article is doing, which is asking whether biological sex is inherently related to the idea of what a lesbian is, and whether that is ok.

Isn't that the part he really objects to? So what is the point of asking whether it would be ok to report on gay men being rapists?

I don't know how OJ would define a gay man or a straight man any more. It's not by sex, I don't think, from what he's previously said. I think it's dependent on gender - but that's for others; it's still sex for him?

That's going on his previous tweets.

Owen’s comparison only works if you believe that men who say they’re women are women, so that you can make the spurious claim that lesbian women are the oppressor in this situation. Even if you believe “trans” is an axis of oppression, it’s cancelled out by sex, which is why their mantra is so crucial to them.

Does anyone know what this is referring to, in one of the replies on the Twitter thread?

”I hope that they're embarrassed at the fact that one of their interviewees seems to have been credibly implicated in the kinds of allegations she was throwing around at transgender people.”

@AnyOldPrion

Owen’s comparison only works if you believe that men who say they’re women are women, so that you can make the spurious claim that lesbian women are the oppressor in this situation. Even if you believe “trans” is an axis of oppression, it’s cancelled out by sex, which is why their mantra is so crucial to them.

Does anyone know what this is referring to, in one of the replies on the Twitter thread?

”I hope that they're embarrassed at the fact that one of their interviewees seems to have been credibly implicated in the kinds of allegations she was throwing around at transgender people.”

Lily Cade

www.newsweek.com/anti-transgender-activist-quoted-bbc-calls-trans-women-lynched-1645231

*An anti-transgender activist recently quoted in a controversial BBC article posted online advocating for violence against transgender women and called for them to be lynched.

Lily Cade, a lesbian porn star who apologized amid a series of sexual assault allegations in 2017, was featured in a controversial BBC article that claims trans women pressure lesbians into sex.

In a post on her website called "Where the are these children's mothers," Cade characterized trans women as "vile, weak, disgusting whiny, fake-victim" and supported acts of violence against them.

"Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. Lynch Kaitlyn (Jenner)! Lynch the 'Sisters' Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox!" the post read.

Cade continued to argue that trans women are not really women and said if it were up to her, she'd execute "every last one of them personally."

"They can't take down Lily Cade. She's already dead. I'm the bullet, btch, if you let me be. Who else has the balls, the brains, the voice, and the pitiless eyes to fight these mothers? I'm a fcking soldier. You ready? I'm ready," Cade wrote.*

I think LOJ was referring to this originally

twitter.com/christapeterso/status/1453149042125332480?t=IxoopEUXKF-3cLK_xPVeDA&s=19

Lilly Cade was only in the article to explain where the term cotton ceiling came from, because her turning down a transwoman because of being male was why the tw coined the term cotton ceiling.

Lilly Cade isn’t one of the victims interviewed. The article isn’t about the allegations against her. She’s just mentioned to explain the origins of cotton ceiling.

Thanks all for the information.

I think I said this on another thread, or I’m so tired I’m hallucinating.

But Lilly Cade could be a cannibal child killer but that doesn’t change the definition of a lesbian and she’s entitled to say she’s same sex orientated and no way in hell to a tw who wants to fuck her.

When we talk about women in prisons, while we know most are in for non violent crimes, there are a small % who are in for the worst things imaginable. Who did things like my mother who handed me over to her many boyfriends to rape.

I can have zero sympathy for the small % of women who commit the most horrific crimes against children and still recognise they are women. And that they shouldn’t be housed with male bodied people.

There are not deserving and undeserving women. Lilly Cade deserved to say no to a male bodied fuck because she is a lesbian, no matter what else she’s done.

@BloodinGutters

I think I said this on another thread, or I’m so tired I’m hallucinating.

But Lilly Cade could be a cannibal child killer but that doesn’t change the definition of a lesbian and she’s entitled to say she’s same sex orientated and no way in hell to a tw who wants to fuck her.

When we talk about women in prisons, while we know most are in for non violent crimes, there are a small % who are in for the worst things imaginable. Who did things like my mother who handed me over to her many boyfriends to rape.

I can have zero sympathy for the small % of women who commit the most horrific crimes against children and still recognise they are women. And that they shouldn’t be housed with male bodied people.

There are not deserving and undeserving women. Lilly Cade deserved to say no to a male bodied fuck because she is a lesbian, no matter what else she’s done.