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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Harrop MPTS Hearing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/10/2021 16:18

I thought this may be of interest:

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-adrian-harrop-nov-21

The tribunal will inquire into the allegation that from 10 May 2018 to 23 November 2019, Dr Harrop inappropriately used his Twitter account to post tweets that were offensive and/or insulting and/or inappropriate in nature and some of which were intended to intimidate.

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2Rebecca · 19/10/2021 18:23

The BMA code of conduct is irrelevant to this as it is not a BMA disciplinary panel but the GMC. BMA membership is optional as it is a trade union. Half the UKs GPs aren't BMA members but all have to be registered with the GMC.

Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet · 19/10/2021 18:23

There has been a lot in the news and in the public psyche recently about men in positions of power using that power to cause harm, and everyone apparently 'missing' the glaringly obvious signals.

I would hope that in light of that, the GMC would come down hard on any sort of red flag behaviour.

nauticant · 19/10/2021 18:31

The timing is fascinating. Much of Harrop's unpleasant tweeting took place when having right side of history opinions meant you were untouchable but that time is ending (we hope), and the focus has shifted onto whether someone is causing harm. What this means for Harrop is suddenly at the time his shield has vanished the opponents are wondering whether they need to wield their weapons.

LizzieSiddal · 19/10/2021 18:56

His treatment of several women seems to have been targeted and threatening. I know several people made complaints to the GMC and iirc he was then given a Supervisor. That obviously didn’t work out did it.

I do remember thinking I’d be petrified if I ever went into a medical setting and saw him there.

YesSheCan · 19/10/2021 19:01

Just clicked on Harrop's twitter handle after reading this thread, out of curiosity as don't know much about this situation. Says I'm blocked! Don't think I've interacted with him and I don't post controversial stuff on twitter - haven't tweeted much at all for a long while. I have liked a few reasonable and respectful tweets by people who are GC and follow a few GC people - would this account for the blocking?

Signalbox · 19/10/2021 19:02

Oh joy. Christmas comes early!

3 week hearing over texts is quite long. I can’t wait to see the GMC witness list!

YesSheCan · 19/10/2021 19:07

@YesSheCan

Just clicked on Harrop's twitter handle after reading this thread, out of curiosity as don't know much about this situation. Says I'm blocked! Don't think I've interacted with him and I don't post controversial stuff on twitter - haven't tweeted much at all for a long while. I have liked a few reasonable and respectful tweets by people who are GC and follow a few GC people - would this account for the blocking?
Oh, it seems he doesn't use the account any more and pretty much everyone is blocked
Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet · 19/10/2021 19:09

@YesSheCan

Just clicked on Harrop's twitter handle after reading this thread, out of curiosity as don't know much about this situation. Says I'm blocked! Don't think I've interacted with him and I don't post controversial stuff on twitter - haven't tweeted much at all for a long while. I have liked a few reasonable and respectful tweets by people who are GC and follow a few GC people - would this account for the blocking?
Yes. There is loads of 'TERF blocker' software out there and stuff which will highlight your twitter name in red if you have liked/followed certain people (eg. Shinigami Eyes). I think a single like of a certain twitter user can get you blocked! 👀

It's why I don't ever like or follow anyone on Twitter or ever post. So that I can read everything!

gildalily · 19/10/2021 19:13

I'm blocked too. Bizarre.

TrainedByDinosaurs · 19/10/2021 19:18

@BoreOfWhabylon

The hearing is online apparently
The ‘online’ refers to where he works. If you look at all the other doctors on the MPTS hearing list it has where they are based in that field
MrsKeats · 19/10/2021 19:20

That's excellent
I've complained to the GMC twice so maybe they're listening finally.

YesSheCan · 19/10/2021 19:20

@Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet oh wow, so because I liked a few (and I mean very few) tweets which respectfully expressed concerns about adolescent healthcare or women's safety, my account has been flagged as a t*rf account? Good to know. I'm a medic too. Maybe I'll steer clear of Twitter altogether

Effzeh · 19/10/2021 19:42

The ‘online’ refers to where he works. If you look at all the other doctors on the MPTS hearing list it has where they are based in that field

I think the 'online' refers to the location where the alleged offence took place?

TrainedByDinosaurs · 19/10/2021 19:49

@Effzeh

The ‘online’ refers to where he works. If you look at all the other doctors on the MPTS hearing list it has where they are based in that field

I think the 'online' refers to the location where the alleged offence took place?

Ah yes that is probably it, ignore what i said Blush
Lordamighty · 19/10/2021 20:03

@LizzieSiddal

His treatment of several women seems to have been targeted and threatening. I know several people made complaints to the GMC and iirc he was then given a Supervisor. That obviously didn’t work out did it.

I do remember thinking I’d be petrified if I ever went into a medical setting and saw him there.

If I went into a medical setting & he was there I would leave.
Terfasaurus · 19/10/2021 20:14

TLDR from Glinner:

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/doctor-do-much-harm

Congressdingo · 19/10/2021 20:18

If I went into a medical setting & he was there I would leave

Some long time ago I did this. And then complained mightily.
I was terrified making the complaint but I figured get my side in first.

I hope posie can make it to this, but if anyone could get there could we have a tweet thread or a debrief at the end of each day or is it completely confidential?

BoreOfWhabylon · 19/10/2021 20:20

@Effzeh

The ‘online’ refers to where he works. If you look at all the other doctors on the MPTS hearing list it has where they are based in that field

I think the 'online' refers to the location where the alleged offence took place?

Ah. Thanks both, that makes sense.

And I don't think anyone needs to be worried about being on a Terfblocker list. Just block someone right back if you find they've blocked you.

BoreOfWhabylon · 19/10/2021 20:23

I hope posie can make it to this, but if anyone could get there could we have a tweet thread or a debrief at the end of each day or is it completely confidential?

I really hope Posie can be there and he sees her Grin. The Webberley hearing was being tweeted from a couple of accounts, so I hope somene willmbe tweeting along to this. It's a public hearing, after all.

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 19/10/2021 20:24

I wonder if Harrop will learn a valuable lesson from the tribunal. A challenging yet important and unforgettable lesson.

TurquoiseBaubles · 19/10/2021 20:38

It's interesting how supportive he was of Stephanie Hayden, despite the new information that has come out about Hayden's criminal record Hmm. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he didn't know.

iklboo · 19/10/2021 20:38

It's not even the GMC anymore. It's the MPTS - they're separate. GMC will present its evidence, his side theirs. MPTS makes the decision.

BoreOfWhabylon · 19/10/2021 20:52

@TurquoiseBaubles
I really don't want to sound like the thread police but probably best not to discuss that person. MNHQ have been given a lot of trouble by them in the past and will probably take the thread down.

RainbowCrossing · 19/10/2021 20:52

@TurquoiseBaubles

It's interesting how supportive he was of Stephanie Hayden, despite the new information that has come out about Hayden's criminal record Hmm. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he didn't know.
That whole partnership was super weird wasn't it?

Like, a-bit-sick-in-my-mouth weird. Confused

McDuffy · 19/10/2021 20:54

Oooh three whole weeks. I'm local but work full time Hmm isn't Posie Liverpool? Or was that just where that now infamous billboard was posted?