World menopause day for 50% of people

[OhDear2200]

This has pissed me right off

www.acas.org.uk/menopause-at-work

Interestingly under the law bit gender reassignment is before sex.

The 50% thing makes no sense if they are being so inclusive that the people affected list includes “relatives, colleagues and carers who are supporting someone going through it”. If that’s the case surely pretty much no-one’s unscathed then? Madness.
It’s word salad - no mention of periods or (female) fertility at all, they may as well just go back to calling it “The Change” (taps nose) and leave it at that!

I messaged too. I need to know if I am likely to be affected by this, so is there a way of knowing who will get it? This is all very worrying.

Did the meeting go:
"About the slogan. We spoke last week about the importance of not excluding anyone and causing harm with our language. So, we will use the word menstruators?"

"No, because menopause means an end to menstruating, doesn't it?"

"Oh really? Crap. OK, birthing people".

"But not all w - I mean, birthing people, er, give birth if you see what I mean?"

"So those people aren't birthing people but could still get menopause. Got it. OK, cervix havers?"

"Yes brilliant! Ah, shit, no hang on. Some w - I mean, cervix havers, no longer have a cervix because they've had a hysterectomy. Which itself will cause menopause, so we can't exclude those, er, people".

"People! Great. We will use people. After all, everyone is a person, I think?"

Idiots.

I gave them some feedback too. Thanks for pointing that out, Piapiano.

@Piapiano

There's a bit at the bottom of the website which says something like "did you find the information you were looking for?". In clicked no, said that I didn't understand it and why have they erased the word "women". It's anonymous.

Thanks for this. I have commented on the vague unhelpful language used in the article.

Done!

This wording was in my work daily email, except they went for 'nearly 50%' of the population, which makes even less sense. And given it's an NHS hospital, considerably more than 50% of the workforce will be affected by menopause, loads of us being menstruators bodies with vaginas cervix havers umm - non men?

I've commented that they seem to have forgotten the name for the 51% of the population who will go through the menopause. The word that they are looking for is 'women'.

I gave them some feedback on why I couldn't find the information I was looking for too. Idiots.

I've also messaged.

I wish the menopause wasn't so relentlessly portrayed as negative. Obviously some/many women have an awful time but for some it is great. I had difficult periods and migraines that were linked to periods, honestly menopause was one of the wonders of the world to me.

Oooo didn’t see the comment bit.

It’s the total lack of the word woman and yet the use of trans woman that boils my piss.

This is massively offensive. I can't believe how appalling that is.

Bad enough going through the menopause and being effectively erased by younger colleagues who do not wish to contemplate ageing and hot flushes - but now we are not supposed to mention the W word? Seriously?

I've messaged too

Acas are going to be a bit confused by the number of responses 😆

I've left feedback thanking them for this new information and letting them know that I'll forward it to my husband. Poor wee soul had no clue the odds were 50/50. Now we just have the inevitable wait to see which one of us gets hit first.

I don’t understand the inclusion of trans women in this information at all. What they might experience are side effects from medication changes, which obviously can be significant, but plenty of medications could cause side effects that resemble menopause symptoms, why not list all of them as well?

I gave them some rather lengthy feedback. This sort of thing really pisses me off.

The inclusion of MTF trans people if they stop or have fewer hormones gave me the rage. It's not the fucking menopause.

I too let them know it had not been clear. I asked for help in identifying which 50% of people were likely to be affected by this.

I suspect whoever wrote that page had no idea how the menopause might affect transwomen. I also have no idea. I would assume that a transwoman takes drugs for life, otherwise the body would revert to producing testosterone in normal male amounts, and minimal amounts of oestrogen and progesterone. So where's the menopause?

Goodness knows what happens to the bodies of transmen if they are suppressing production of oestrogen and progesterone. Do they eventually reach a point where they can stop taking the drug(s) that do that, as the body has stopped of its own accord? They would need to continue with testosterone as the female body doesn't make that in anything like male quantities. All complicated by the fact that some transmen have their ovaries removed along with the womb, so probably go into menopause much younger than normal.

@Piapiano thanks, I’ve also given feedback

The list of those affected by menopause has some redundant categories in it. They list:

1. those going through the menopause
2. relatives, colleagues and carers who are supporting someone going through it
3. trans people – 'trans' is an umbrella term used to describe people whose gender is not the same as the sex they were assigned at birth
4. intersex people

Surely any trans or intersex people affected either go through menopause themselves or support a woman someone going thought it, otherwise they're not affected?

Or is it just that those extra special people who are not women must be specifically included by name in anything that relates to women 50% of the population?

As a pp said, basically everyone can be affected by the menopause, regardless of age or sex. Yet it's a "natural stage of life". For whom, and why?

Done. Also pointed out that rational members of the 51% of the population that have XX chromosomes and are happy about it have feelings too and are fed up of attempts being made to erase us from society.