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Marion Millar's case delayed again

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Cabinfever10 · 04/10/2021 14:10

As the title says yet again today's hearing/legal arguments have been rescheduled this time until the 1st of November. 🤬🤬

Marion Millar's case delayed again
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Tesla73 · 06/10/2021 12:27

I think we all know what he has escaped police enquiry - or am I just being cynical?

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nauticant · 06/10/2021 12:28

Billingham is a shocker. There's much more to say but the monitors will most likely be closely watching this thread.

If you want to be cheered up, look at the replies he's getting:

twitter.com/oolon/status/1445039741972406272

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GoodieMoomin · 06/10/2021 12:31

The process is the punishment

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 06/10/2021 12:31

Oolon has been on here and I have had the, erm, pleasure, of debating his individual take on all matters female/feminism.

Very unpleasant, intractable. No amount of negative response seems to deter him.

And his Twitter history is fucking scary!

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KittenKong · 06/10/2021 15:43

Father of two girls? Poor kids.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/10/2021 15:44

@CuriousaboutSamphire

How the hell Billingham has escaped police enquiry eludes me!

Misogyny isn't an offence.
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CuriousaboutSamphire · 06/10/2021 15:47

I'm not talking about misogyny. His Twitter feed, actions are so out of the ordianry as to be quite scary, repugnant and in places, I would say are as illegal, if not more so, than the things he is decrying, reporting!

That's a totally different concersation Smile

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MargaritaPie · 07/10/2021 15:23

I saw an image on Twitter someone had reported him to the police for "contempt of court" the previous time Millar had her fundraising banned. The police responded to say it's not COC and that the platform "have a right to take action to defend their reputation".

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/10/2021 15:50

And? I saw an image on Twitter that said men cannot be women!

So someone made a mistake and the police informed them of it! It went no further. No miscarriage of justice, nobody's rights infringed,

What is your point?

Or do you think Mr Billingham /0olon is a nice boy who has a good heart and a good point?

Have a good read of his twitter feed, the older threads (that I am sure you were on some of) about him, some started by him, how he chooses to interect with women (and kids).

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 07/10/2021 16:10

This reminds me of the anti-suffragette Cat and Mouse Act:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_(Temporary_Discharge_for_Ill_Health)_Act_1913

It's disgraceful that they are being allowed to keep messing Marion around like this. Just trying to grind her down.

Stay strong, Marion. We're all behind you. Flowers xx

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MargaritaPie · 07/10/2021 16:27

My point is the police have said his actions do not constitute contempt of court and funding platforms "have the right" to ban Millar if they feel dealing with her would be bad for their business' reputation.

No comment to make on oolong or whatever his name is, I've heard about him but haven't looked him up. Should I?

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/10/2021 16:59

Ah. The side step.

Not CoC. Yep.

Normal and every day to follow an individual round the internet and to exhort your followers to raise a ruckus so various platforms are forced to think about an issue, any issue? That's fine, is it? No possible offence being committed?

And no, don't look him up. Some of his supposedly tactical tweeting has been quite horrific - and mean that quite literally, without hyperbole (unless you consider using child sex abuse as a tactic in his online vendettas is all fine and dandy).

Basically, no matter whether you agree with his underlying stance, his tactics are particularly nasty and, in my opinion, break a slew of laws around malicious communication.

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MargaritaPie · 07/10/2021 18:01

"to follow an individual round the internet and to exhort your followers to raise a ruckus"

This sounds familiar. You refer to for example when a certain Scottish gay actor was (I haven't been keeping up to date if he still is or not, but he certainly was at one point) stalked and harassed continually on social media (which also included a torrent of complaints sent to his workplace about him, none of which were upheld btw).

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nauticant · 07/10/2021 18:06

He was so afraid he announced he was leaving Scotland didn't he? I wonder whether he found a safer country.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/10/2021 18:15

No Margarite, I mean Mr Billingham/0olon.

I didn't change horse midstream.

But very nice try at a deflection.

I doubt anyone reading would fail to see what you tried to do!

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/10/2021 18:17

Oh, and receipts for the 'torrent of complaints'

Though I suspect that will be like his announcement that he would be leaving Scotland - accompanied by private communications that give the public ones the lie.

And I know you were on that thread!

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BoreOfWhabylon · 07/10/2021 18:20

I suggest not engaging with those who are doing their best to encourage discussion of a pending court case.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/10/2021 18:22

Duly noted.

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Jaysmith71 · 07/10/2021 18:24

The Wheels of Justice they grind slowly, and are in need of a good spray of WD40, if not a whack with a hammer, now and again. But we shall get there, and we then shall have our say.

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WitchButNotTheFunKind · 08/10/2021 00:19

Appreciate MargaritaPie keeping the conversation going. It reminded me to go donate to Marion crowdfunder Grin

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MargaritaPie · 08/10/2021 02:22

I think Stonewall might need a little donation too, seems like tough times for the LGBT community.

Stonewall look to me the best LGBT charity to donate to, for starters one won't get thrown out of a gay pride event for wearing Stonewall attire to it...

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Helleofabore · 08/10/2021 05:25

And that is a great comment to highlight that absolutely hypocrisy of both Pride and Stonewall. The fact that a gay man or a lesbian woman can be thrown out of anywhere based on being aligned with the ‘wrong’ LGB charity is rather significant when those entities are preaching tolerance.

And I believe the gay man at the Pride march wasn’t thrown out but left for fear of his own safety with the police. Because he had a whole protest group at the march abusing him and he was assaulted.

And that reminds me that Nancy Kelley equates women fighting for sex based rights as the being the same as anti-semites.

Yes, Margarita. You have very much reminded us just how tolerant Pride and Stonewall is.

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Artichokeleaves · 08/10/2021 08:16

@MargaritaPie

I think Stonewall might need a little donation too, seems like tough times for the LGBT community.

Stonewall look to me the best LGBT charity to donate to, for starters one won't get thrown out of a gay pride event for wearing Stonewall attire to it...

What a truly silly, unpleasant post.

For pete's sake, you have just pretty much stated if you're homosexual, you'd better pay protection money and wear clothes of a fixed anti homosexual group or you're in danger.

Yes. You've nailed it. I don't think you meant to at all, but thank you for illustrating why the LGBT community is having a tough time because of Stonewall and idiots with these sorts of views, and why I as an L person am now not only unwilling but afraid to go to pride.

Your homophobia is very fashionable, thank you for reminding me that as a lesbian I'd better not tell anyone or let them find out about my sexuality if I want to stay unthreatened and unmolested. And that you support the group who would treat me that way for being female, homosexual and saying so
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nauticant · 08/10/2021 08:24

It is a strange point to make in support of the argument:

You should donate to Stonewall because if you wear approved clothing you won't be driven away from their "inclusive" and "family friendly" gatherings.

I sometimes wonder whether this particular poster is secretly GC and posts things to take the piss out of how trans activists carry on.

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SweetGrapes · 08/10/2021 08:35

So stonewall is the establishment now aka the big bully whose t-shirts proclaim your right-think at a parade which essentially used to be a protest against the establishment?

Got it.

And thanks for the reminder to contribute.

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