Anyone else stunned at the hypocrisy they're witnessing?

[yourhairiswinterfire]

I really shouldn't be surprised by now, but...

I'd just like to point it out (hopefully the screenshots attach).

There's also David Lammy who wants violence against women and girls to be treated as terrorism. Thanks Dave, agreed. But didn't you just recently call women who want to protect their rights, who are trying to stop safeguarding for women and girls being dismantled, ''rights hoarding dinosaurs''?

Keir Starmer also so sad about VAWG. The same Keir Starmer who just said that women's reality is something that ''shouldn't be said''.

How are you going to protect women and girls from male violence when you're so terrified of backlash from males that you're pretending you don't even know what a woman or girl is?!

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@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Oh for God's sake, Mishy. You have had this explained to you over and over and over a-fucking-gain. At this point I think you are a troll.

Good derail from the outright hypocrisy of the fourth estate though, eh? Have a round of applause.

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Y'know by now that putting on a dress is not needed to be a tw right? I know you do, you read here as much as anyone.

So given dolatowski, Karen white and others I want a figure, a number, how many female cunty type women have to be harmed before you deem it too many
Thanks

Sorry that should be "rarely happens"?????

Aarghh messed up there
Do behave @MishyJDI - "rarely happens" ????? "Educate" yourself please

Some of those who are fighting to remove women's rights ...

[quote andyoldlabour]I wondered who Alex Sobel was and found that he is a Labour MP, who has been pushing a campaign to have Mr and Mrs removed in order to makeway for the gender neutral Mx. He also supports trans rights activists who would ban single sex changing rooms, toilets and prisons.

"Women who object are bigots who should not vote Labour, the MP declared."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9258383/Labour-shadow-minister-says-Mx-used-gender-neutral-alternative-Mr-Mrs.html[/quote]
This is INCREDIBLY blatant. There's no pretense any more, no politeness, no embarrassment, no self-consciousness, no stealth, no window dressing. It's out in the open and completely normalised.

WOMEN who object are bigots.
WOMEN who have the wrong opinions shouldn't vote.

Alex Sobel is a misogynist. Keir Starmer should suspend him.

So basically the message for woman and girls is:

Don't walk on your own in the dark
Be aware of all men near you
Don't get too drunk, always be aware of your surroundings
Watch your drinks whilst out
Be mindful of what you are wearing when you go out
Don't get in a taxi that you have not booked
If you go on a date, text a friend the details / their car reg etc

Go to the gym / toilet. If there is a man in there - Be kind. Do not challenge or question him.
Take part in a women's sport. If there is a man there - Be kind. Do not challenge or question him.
Unwell enough to be in a hospital ward. If there is a man in there - Be kind. Do not challenge or question him.
Been through the trauma of a sex attack or rape. If there is a man in there - Be kind. Do not challenge or question him.

Want to refer to yourself as a woman - how fucking dare you.

Yep - the hypocrisy is unbelievable - and the worst part, is all the women and women's charities and groups that are still backing this shit.

So, violent, murderous bastards often start out as men who expose themselves to women, yes? Indecent exposure is a sex crime. Unless a man says they are a woman. Then they can come into a female space and commit indecent exposure without fear of arrest. Jesus fucking Christ.

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

"transwomen really are women".

@MishyJDI Transwomen may look like women, but in what way are they really women? If their DNA is tested, will it be:
biologically male = one X and one Y chromosome (XY)
OR
biologically female = two X chromosomes (XX)

Because if they are physically, biologically male, they are not really women, no matter their dress, make up and body alterations.

Simply stating something, doesn't make it true.
Transwomen are really women in the same way that:
black is really white.
rain is really dry.
the sun is really dark and cold .

@aksimon

So, violent, murderous bastards often start out as men who expose themselves to women, yes? Indecent exposure is a sex crime. Unless a man says they are a woman. Then they can come into a female space and commit indecent exposure without fear of arrest. Jesus fucking Christ.

-A person with their penis out in a women's space that is a sex offending flasher.

-A person with their penis out in a women's space that is not a sex offending flasher.

We're expected to be able to tell the difference, and to act accordingly. Don't ask me how, none of the posters that come here to ''educate'' us out of our terrible ways have given us the answer to that yet.

[quote Faffertea]@MishyJDI
Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant.

You’ve posted essentially the same statements on multiple threads here for some time. And women have explained to you again and again why you’re talking absolute crap. Are you really so ignorant that you just ignore it and post again or are you just flat out trolling now?[/quote]
Maybe Mishy is Peter Tatchell. He specialises in cut&pasting his pronouncements into multiple places and absolutely never listens to any responses. Just plugs the same old line, never learning.

The statement, transwomen really are women, cannot be true in any material sense. The corpse of a transwoman would reveal only male indicators.

The statement could be said to be true conceptually if your defined category of woman was inclusive of transwomen.

So what is your inclusive definition that make this statement coherent and cohesive?

• A male-bodied person is a woman if they say they are.

(what if they're lying or delusional?)

• A male-bodied person is a woman if they truthfully say they are?

(How can we tell?)

• A woman is whoever wants to be a woman.

(If it's elective, what difference does it make?)

• Of course male-bodied persons are not really women, but just say it, what have you got to lose?

isn't Laurie Penney non binary or summat now? so she won't need to worry about violence against women now, will she?

Oi Mushy, I think your brain’s been left out in the rain. It’s no longer functioning properly. HTH.

i seem to recall writing a limerick to Mishi recently. something about their brain going squishy. looked like it hasn't firmed up then

Do you think, we should just let things happen. All the protest in the world doesn't seem to make any difference. If we let things happen, and they all get sued, they would run out of money, very quickly. This rubbish makes me so angry. Where would men be without women. They would have dirty houses, no meals and no children. Men are such an ungrateful bunch!

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Rarely. So rarely being bloody violent and murderous is ok with you, then?

Ssssshhhhhh! their hoping no one will notice.

Mishy, trans women are male, adult human males. You cant be a trans woman without being a male.

And trans violence to women may not matter to you but it matters to women, all male violence matters to women, none should be brushed under the carpet.

The hypocrisy of it is particularly enraging. Why does OJ pretend to care about misogyny when he is the misogynist in chief? Why does he pretend to listen to women's voices when he spends all his time on Twitter blocking them? Why does he pretend to care about sexual violence against women when every time a woman talks about sexual violence he accuses her of being a bigot?

I absolutely cannot understand how the man has so little self-knowledge. Or perhaps he does know perfectly well that he hates women but comes up with this shit purely for trolling purposes.

@DevonTF

So basically the message for woman and girls is:

Don't walk on your own in the dark
Be aware of all men near you
Don't get too drunk, always be aware of your surroundings
Watch your drinks whilst out
Be mindful of what you are wearing when you go out
Don't get in a taxi that you have not booked
If you go on a date, text a friend the details / their car reg etc

Go to the gym / toilet. If there is a man in there - Be kind. Do not challenge or question him.
Take part in a women's sport. If there is a man there - Be kind. Do not challenge or question him.
Unwell enough to be in a hospital ward. If there is a man in there - Be kind. Do not challenge or question him.
Been through the trauma of a sex attack or rape. If there is a man in there - Be kind. Do not challenge or question him.

Want to refer to yourself as a woman - how fucking dare you.

Yep - the hypocrisy is unbelievable - and the worst part, is all the women and women's charities and groups that are still backing this shit.

Exactly:

• women, you should be resisting arrest and escaping if you are challenged by a large predatory male cop with handcuffs;

BUT

• women, you are disgusting nazi bigots who should accept a large male in your changing room or women’s refuge and never question it, indeed you should pretend you cannot see any difference.

Cognitive dissonance much?

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

I thought we’d moved on from the magical gender fairy lady brain trapped in the wrong body narrative….? Keep up! - it’s all “sex is a spectrum because clownfish biology is COMPLEX” these days.

OP. 100% agree. Only just found this thread. I was trying to make the same points on another thread (it survived for 15 minutes I think), but you say it much more eloquently. The cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy is insane.

Ah, I get it now. LOJ blocking everyone can mean he can pretend the debate is not happening as it does not show up on his timeline.
This, to me, seems to indicate that he knows he's not 'on the right side of history' afterall, otherwise why would he go to such lengths to pretend none of this is happening.