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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone else stunned at the hypocrisy they're witnessing?

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yourhairiswinterfire · 02/10/2021 12:57

I really shouldn't be surprised by now, but...

I'd just like to point it out (hopefully the screenshots attach).

There's also David Lammy who wants violence against women and girls to be treated as terrorism. Thanks Dave, agreed. But didn't you just recently call women who want to protect their rights, who are trying to stop safeguarding for women and girls being dismantled, ''rights hoarding dinosaurs''?

Keir Starmer also so sad about VAWG. The same Keir Starmer who just said that women's reality is something that ''shouldn't be said''.

How are you going to protect women and girls from male violence when you're so terrified of backlash from males that you're pretending you don't even know what a woman or girl is?!

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Anyone else stunned at the hypocrisy they're witnessing?
Anyone else stunned at the hypocrisy they're witnessing?
Anyone else stunned at the hypocrisy they're witnessing?
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RedDogsBeg · 02/10/2021 15:14

@OvaHere

Always good to introduce this twitter thread to a new audience.

Things men have pretended to be in order to rape, assault or gain access to women and children

twitter.com/bunifoosh/status/1234230311564840960

Why would they not put on a dress?

They have.

As long ago as the 1970's - the Cambridge Rapist did, he needed access to all Women Colleges and how did he gain this access, that's right by dressing as a woman.

He made his escape on a bike through Cambridge dressed as a woman.

So, cut the crap MishyJDI, it's happened, it does happen and as for this comment of yours : It just rarely happens, that its not relevant could you be any less repulsive in your contempt for the victims of it? It's extremely fucking relevant to those victims.

Fitt · 02/10/2021 15:14

Dear Mishy

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

really are is false.

Mrsorganmorgan · 02/10/2021 15:18

Do you think, we should just let things happen. All the protest in the world doesn't seem to make any difference. If we let things happen, and they all get sued, they would run out of money, very quickly. This rubbish makes me so angry. Where would men be without women. They would have dirty houses, no meals and no children. Men are such an ungrateful bunch!

OvaHere · 02/10/2021 15:19

I didn't know about that case @RedDogsBeg. Thanks

RedDogsBeg · 02/10/2021 15:21

Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Anyone wondering why VAWG is so prevalent and nothing is done about it bar handwringing and a chorus of 'oh dear, what are we to do?' needs to look no further than this comment by MishyJDI, it tells you all you need to know at just how much contempt the victims of male violence are held in. Remember that it just rarely happen it is not relevant, that predatory men would and have dressed as women to access women - in Mishy's opinion this is not relevant, the victims are not relevant.

TedImgoingmad · 02/10/2021 15:22

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Nobody's buying this shit anymore. Seriously, people are alive to the lies and are angry.

Nobody has said transpeople are a threat. Women have said that self ID laws are a threat to the hard won protections that are essential to the safety of women and children, because they will and have been exploited by predatory males, whether those males identify genuinely as trans women (whatever that means under the ever expanding umbrella) or just good old women haters finding yet another avenue to exploit. It's happened in every other walk of life, it has and will happen in this one. That's why we need our single sex spaces to exclude all male bodied people, and that's why third spaces are needed for anyone who needs them.

RedDogsBeg · 02/10/2021 15:26

@OvaHere

I didn't know about that case *@RedDogsBeg*. Thanks
He had a garden shed full of women's clothes, wigs, shoes and make-up - let's hazard a guess about what his defence would be today and which prison estate he would be put in.

I often wonder why with all this keen desire to posthumously trans certain people the TRAs never do so with him, it's a real conundrum.

TheWeeDonkey · 02/10/2021 15:31

Unfortunately no I'm not. Too many people (men) who jumped on the #MeToo bandwagon are now telling women mixed sex facilities hold no danger and they're being prudish/ bigotted/phobic to share their concerns.

Its just words to them, it means nothing.

Changechangychange · 02/10/2021 15:38

Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Predatory men “in general” don’t dress up as police officers either. But a minority do.

Some predatory men do dress up as women to commit assaults. Some convicted sex offenders who are having a bad time of it in the VP wing of a male prison are keen to be moved to a women’s prison instead, and willing to put on a dress in order to be moved.

Some pretend to have heart attacks, one under my care used to refuse to come to dialysis until he made himself sick enough to require hospital admission for a couple of days. He used to say it was worth it for a trip out (this isn’t identifiable, it is pretty common).

If people are willing to put themselves in hospital, why do you think that pretending to be trans is sacrosanct? A lot of these offenders showed zero sign of being trans until they thought it might get them into a women’s prison. Look at Ian Huntley - do you really think that he is trans? Or do you think he’s a lying little shit?

334bu · 02/10/2021 15:38

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

All crime statistics and research show that male people who identify as women are just as likely to offend against women as any other member of the male sex. Therefore your opinion is wrong!

Claudia84 · 02/10/2021 15:42

OJ in particular has made me rage today. Hypocritical shit.

TabbyStar · 02/10/2021 15:43

That marathon runner was great, really clear and authoritative, well done to her.

RedDogsBeg · 02/10/2021 15:45

Therefore your opinion is wrong!

And dangerous but then again one has to remember the relevance here and it has been decreed by MishyJDI that predatory men identifying as women or just dressing as women as a disguise is not relevant and the victims therefore are equally irrelevant.

GCAcademic · 02/10/2021 15:46

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Transwomen really are not women.

They are male.

Many of them are a threat. Because they are male.

Unsure33 · 02/10/2021 15:54

@TedImgoingmad

Completely agree.

If trans want rights they will be entirely happy with separate areas for anyone , not just trans , could be called freestylers. For anyone who wishes to use them . That is freedom of choice .

But males and females should have choice and rights as well.

That leaves prisons and hospitals / medical appointments etc to sort out though .

I am sure there must be an answer.

ElliottSmithsfingers · 02/10/2021 15:58

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

You are a colossal idiot or a troll. My guess would be the first one. They are as much women as I am an elephant, if I say I self identify as one.
KittenKong · 02/10/2021 15:59

I always wanted to be a bear when I was a child (no, really). Sadly... apart from hibernation tendencies and a shit temper...I am not a bear.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 02/10/2021 15:59

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Give over @MishyJDI

We know better. You know better. So many people the world over know better.

TWAW - but maybe not that one, cos she wasn't very nice. Nope! Because what you are reling on to misdirect is precisely what many GC women have been saying for years. How the fuck can we tell?

Your opinion is utter bunk and we can all see it!

Jesus! It's like we got to 2021 and Mishy now wants us to go all the way back to 2004, pre the GRC.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 02/10/2021 16:28

Nothing else to say except still Spartacus.

ducksalive · 02/10/2021 16:29

transwomen really are women,
Trans women are trans women and biological males this is just a basic unalterable fact.

I personally don't hold them to be any more or less dangerous than other biological males.
I expect current safeguards around biological males to be upheld and to include all biological males.

I have worked in child protection, specifically in child sexual abuse for a long time now and am aware of the lengths that some men go to to abuse children and young people.

I would expect the same to be true of those who wish to abuse women.
If you make loopholes someone will exploit them.

Artichokeleaves · 02/10/2021 16:35

Your entire precept is wrong, as

Yeah, done debating that now.

OP you are absolutely right. It is insane that these men don't realise how they are coming over to women.

  • we don't give a toss for your privacy, dignity, safety, voices, equality, faith, belief, right to be homosexual, exclusion from key spaces, you're making it up anyway and you're a bunch of dinosaurs with cervixes hoarding rights from male people that you aren't entitled to any more.

Same men - I'm so upset by VAWG. (When it's a popular subject and I can get a good soundbite looking sad and concerned)

The average five year old can fake it more convincingly than this.

endofagain · 02/10/2021 16:41

David Lammy is being all sympathetic and sanctimonious on LBC right now. I bet there wont be a single caller allowed to talk about single sex spaces, rapists in women's prisons, because they will be censored.

merrymouse · 02/10/2021 16:44

Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds.

Dress is irrelevant. Under self ID a man can use any space in which he feels comfortable.

SpindleWhirl · 02/10/2021 16:44

Look at Ian Huntley - do you really think that he is trans? Or do you think he’s a lying little shit?

He's a massive lying shit, and in my humble opinion the people who support the ideology that he's exploiting are absolute cunts.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 02/10/2021 16:46

Can’t believe mishy is still transphobically suggesting TW need to wear dresses. Tut tut mishy

And also TW are obviously not women otherwise wgat are they transitioning from??

And yes I’m fucking furious at the wilful determination not to see by Labour politicians

Anyone else stunned at the hypocrisy they're witnessing?