Anyone else stunned at the hypocrisy they're witnessing?

[yourhairiswinterfire]

I really shouldn't be surprised by now, but...

I'd just like to point it out (hopefully the screenshots attach).

There's also David Lammy who wants violence against women and girls to be treated as terrorism. Thanks Dave, agreed. But didn't you just recently call women who want to protect their rights, who are trying to stop safeguarding for women and girls being dismantled, ''rights hoarding dinosaurs''?

Keir Starmer also so sad about VAWG. The same Keir Starmer who just said that women's reality is something that ''shouldn't be said''.

How are you going to protect women and girls from male violence when you're so terrified of backlash from males that you're pretending you don't even know what a woman or girl is?!

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@TheElementsSong

Can I add this beaut from Sanctimonious Morph?

Ha brilliant! He has got them all blocked!

As for the OP, well we know the line by now don't we? Whether or not we are allowed to feel vulnerable, anxious or uncomfortable around a male entirely depends on how that particular male feels on the inside.

That male identifies as a man? Great, we are allowed to feel anxious and uncomfortable, and to challenge that male.

That male identifies as a woman? None of that is allowed, in fact to feel any of those things is to be a right wing bigot who is making stuff up.

Doncha know by now ladies that you are only allowed to feel things or act in ways that have male approval?

They have all the rad feminists blocked and try their hardest to prevent women speaking/meeting/organising. Then they cry out, "Where are the feminists, how did you allow this happen?"

Putting the comments next to each other works brilliantly.

So hypocritical, how does anyone take them seriously.

Not really stunned, sadly. I never trust a self identified male feminist.

Saying you're a feminist and care about VAWG is part of the Leftist males' grab bag of "things one must believe if one is to be righteous"

I don't believe any of them give one tiny shiny shit about women and girls and their safety beyond signalling to their tribe.

They can do one.

I’ve just text Radio 4’s Any Answers programme about this. Pointing out that if the leader of the opposition says we should never say “women have cervixes” and The Lancet refers to “bodies with vaginas” how we can we even begin to tackle VAWG?
I’m not holding my breath that they’ll read it out.

Saying you're a feminist and care about VAWG is part of the Leftist males' grab bag of "things one must believe if one is to be righteous"

I think they have as much interest in VAWG as David Lammy does in the workings of the female reproductive system.

@terryleather

Saying you're a feminist and care about VAWG is part of the Leftist males' grab bag of "things one must believe if one is to be righteous"

I don't believe any of them give one tiny shiny shit about women and girls and their safety beyond signalling to their tribe.

They can do one.

Yep. This is so clearly illustrated with OJ. He will use women and their abuse and trauma when it suits him to further his profile and agenda, but will also happily call them liars, 'martyrs' and 'not real victims' as well.

@merrymouse

Saying you're a feminist and care about VAWG is part of the Leftist males' grab bag of "things one must believe if one is to be righteous"

I think they have as much interest in VAWG as David Lammy does in the workings of the female reproductive system.

Indeed merry.

Obviously Laurie Penny is not a male feminist! I meant OJ in particular, who is an excellent example of the kind of man who tends to be vocal about feminism ime.

Also OJ: Is the Metropolitan Police now going out of its way to troll women?

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1444003867490979846?s=19

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Yep. This is so clearly illustrated with OJ. He will use women and their abuse and trauma when it suits him to further his profile and agenda, but will also happily call them liars, 'martyrs' and 'not real victims' as well.

Oh and don't forget the accusations that women speaking about VAWG are "weaponising their trauma", you know like JKR did when she spoke about her own experiences in her essay...

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

WiSpa, Katie Dolotowski, Madilyn Harks, Karen White

Those just off the top of my head.

How many women need to be collateral damage, Mishy?

I think I understand the politicians' stance.

They are heterosexual men. At a very deep level, many/most hetero men view femininity as weak and other and feminised men as repugnant. Therefore, they cannot believe any 'proper man' could want to become a woman, or even act out pretending to want that. They view such men as other, as non-men, eunuchs. (Not as women, obviously. They don't want to shag them).

If non-men, then not a threat to women, in the way that the worse kind of proper red-blooded heterosexual men can be.

So they will not recognise trans or fake-trans women as a category of person who could be a threat to women. Being a potential threat to women is their privilege, to use or not, as hetero men.

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

The answer is no, MishyJDI. Please respect women's consent.

Another one.

We weren't saying critics of JKR were misogynists. No one is above criticism. I'm sure JKR would welcome civil discussion.

We were saying the men threatening to kill her, strangle her, choke her with their dicks, kerb stomp her, rape her, send a bomb to her, encouraging people at Pride to murder her, getting RIP JKR trending online, and posting pictures of porn on her art competition thread for children were misogynistic dangers. Along with the men that excused or turned a blind eye to it.

We do need to sort that culture out, Jo. We need to come down hard on men who hide behind their screens, men that dehumanise women with their silly little slurs (that even politicians and celebrities with millions of followers are guilty of using) to justify threatening women in this way. The danger those men pose hasn't been taken seriously. It's been neglected. Time to sort it.

@MishyJDI
Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant.

You’ve posted essentially the same statements on multiple threads here for some time. And women have explained to you again and again why you’re talking absolute crap. Are you really so ignorant that you just ignore it and post again or are you just flat out trolling now?

Always good to introduce this twitter thread to a new audience.

Things men have pretended to be in order to rape, assault or gain access to women and children

twitter.com/bunifoosh/status/1234230311564840960

Why would they not put on a dress?

@Waitwhat23

What I find most bizarre about this all is that an ideology which has courted and encouraged open hatred of women, allowed rape and death threats openly made against women to go unchallenged, encouraged dehumanising slurs and villainised women as being evil, bigoted bitches....

Are then handwringing and mouthing platitudes over increased violence towards women and girls. They created this incel's wet dream!

Quite

Someone is going to give themselves an injury jumping on and off these bandwagons.

We'll remember all of the spineless fuckers who refused to stand up for women's rights.

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Nope. Only men can commit rape. It's a male crime, and yet convicted rapists are being locked up with vulnerable women. Why is that? Alex Sobel in my example doesn't think women should have single sex prisons, away from rapists and violent men, but is trying to say he cares about male violence against women. Where am I wrong? That makes him a hypocrite, no?

Laurie Penney reckons our children (girls) should just not to look at men's genitals. This came about because a sex offender, known by the police to pretend to be a woman to access women, was naked in the women only section of a female spa. How are we to know who is genuine sexual predator getting off on flashing his dick, and who is not? A dick is a dick.

Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds

They don't have to go to the effort of ''putting on a dress''. ''Acceptance without exception''. ''Anyone is whoever they say there are''. You already know this.

It's all to signal that we can trust them because NAMALT and they're obviously the good guys. Except we don't and when we tell them why, we are told we're wrong. Try listening to the women you say you care about. All of them, not just the ones who you think are right.

@MishyJDI

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

What is the definition of 'transwoman'?

At what objective point do transwomen come out of the high risk class of 'male' and into the much lower risk class of 'female'?

transwomen really are women

Are you genuinely so stupid that you really believe that? Or are you just trolling? Why on earth would you believe something that quite obviously isn't true? Not only that, but you imagine that other people are going to believe it because you've stated it as a fact. Do you think if you said "sea horses are horses" we'd believe that too?