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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The lancet on periods “bodies with vaginas”

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 24/09/2021 21:01

twitter.com/thelancet/status/1441372277786951681?s=21

For fucks fucking sake!!! Incidentally heard the prostate cancer ad about half an hour ago “what a creature is a man” funny how men are not bodies with penises innit

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Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 24/09/2021 21:42

@Tibtom

How incredibly insulting. Don't they know that penises can be outie vaginas as well as becoming innie vaginas, sometimes with a bit of help from some bowel. How dare they suggest that bodies with vaginas are the type to have periods.

Lancet do better, educate yourself.

Yeah surely it's really transphobic to use 'bodies with vaginas' when they actually mean 'menstruators' as transwomen can, like, totally have a vagina (and we are told they are even better than those awful cis vaginas as well). This is very exclusionary of The Lancet and will be so triggering for those transwomen with vaginas to have to think that they are not the ones being centred in this particular article.
littlbrowndog · 24/09/2021 21:46

@HowamIalmost50

No such dehumanising descriptors for men though eh? Im beyond fuming tonight! Just as well I have alcohol here!
Yep and that was 4 days ago. The dicks don’t get called bodies with dicks
colouringindoors · 24/09/2021 21:47

"Bodies" now trending at 14 on Twitter. 40k+ tweets expressing disgust and horror.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 24/09/2021 21:52

I mean even the TRAs who respond to objections to 'people with periods/birthing people' etc with 'so are women not people then?' are going to have a job defending this level of dehumanisation!

Anotheruser02 · 24/09/2021 21:52

I'm losing sight of the funny side, I can usually laugh at the stupidity of it all too. It's actually very demoralising, I might take a small break from knowing about it.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 24/09/2021 21:55

Like, is there a point where even the likes of Owen Jones will say 'OK, bodies with vaginas is a little bit dehumanising, even I can see where the anti-trans activists are coming from on this one'?

We must be nearing that point!

Catabogus · 24/09/2021 21:55

I am losing the sense of humour over this one too. The world’s most respected medical publication divides humanity into: men, and bodies with vaginas. It’s hard not to be SO BLOODY ANGRY really.

Itsinthetreesitscoming · 24/09/2021 21:58

This is fucking disgusting. So angry right now.

NiceGerbil · 24/09/2021 22:01

Then they tweeted about black women continuing to rise up.

And the responses are all saying don't you mean black bodies with vaginas.

I don't know if the bodies part is actually worse than they vaginas part. Not even people now.

There are also questions asking what they mean elephants with vaginas or what.

littlbrowndog · 24/09/2021 22:04

Fucking is disgusting. The hate for women and girls. Just bodies with holes

Antinerak · 24/09/2021 22:10

Their attempt at inclusiveness shows how much they'd rather support everyone else BUT women. There is no reason at all why we can't support every gender and every body INCLUDING women. 'Women' and 'female' aren't dirty words.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 24/09/2021 22:10

If this were truly about being inclusive of trans men, then they wouldn't refer to 'men' when talking about prostate cancer because 'not all men have a prostate' and that would be 'reductive and exclusionary' (I think those were the words of Munroe Bergdorf...)

No, it's clearly about transwomen (ie. Males) who cannot stand the thought of not being centred in any conversation about womanhood. About anything to do with women being something that clearly doesn't include them. And they don't want to be reminded that 'people with prostates' does include them because... They are male and males are the 'bodies with prostates'.

Itsinthetreesitscoming · 24/09/2021 22:11

Trending on Twitter though, and not in a positive way. Martina Navratilova has tweeted about it too.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 24/09/2021 22:13

I am willing JK Rowling to tweet something about this! It's so indefensible, I would love to see how the TRAs would spin it and what the Prick News take would be!

NotMeekNotObedient · 24/09/2021 22:13

Neglecting to even acknowledge women exist now.

So so fed up of this crap.

colouringindoors · 24/09/2021 22:14

It's literally from the Incel playbook.

4 days earlier Lancet tweeted about Men and prostrates.

The misogyny is blatant.

canyoutoleratethis · 24/09/2021 22:16

Oh I’m fucking livid tonight. Women are being systematically wiped out of existence, and as a mother to a baby girl, I am increasingly terrified about what the future will be like for her. We are not bodies with holes, and we must not allow ourselves to be spoken of in this way. It is reductive and misogynistic and we must fight back (somehow).

AntiSocialDistancer · 24/09/2021 22:16

Fucking steam is coming out of my fucking ears

Fucking hell

HPFA · 24/09/2021 22:17

Interesting. Never known Rachel Clarke get involved with the issue at all:

twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1441510167443554306

goinggently · 24/09/2021 22:19

"Bodies with vaginas" rights are Human Rights!

Or so you'd hope...

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 24/09/2021 22:20

we must not allow ourselves to be spoken of in this way.

This.

SingingSands · 24/09/2021 22:20

I could weep. Women: historically neglected, now erased.

colouringindoors · 24/09/2021 22:21

HPFA Yes I noticed that. Hopefully some of her many followers get it too.

After another week of multiple women murdered by men, this feels even more violent.

AntiSocialDistancer · 24/09/2021 22:23

Fucking men.

The lancet on periods “bodies with vaginas”
foxgoosefinch · 24/09/2021 22:24

Next step in “inclusive Tiktok gender language” is surely “bodies with front holes”… Hmm

I honestly do not get how supposedly educated adult people could let this get through a subeditor and editor without someone saying “—eh? Does this sound slightly…well, offensive?”

Makes us sound like cadavers or livestock — “bodies”. FFS when will this shit stop?

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