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Sabina Nessa: The Deafening Silence

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Jaysmith71 · 23/09/2021 08:09

Just a local London story. Far less interest than Sarah Everard, also in London. Far less interest than Gabby Petito thousands of miles away.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58639602

Now whatever is it about Sabina Nesser that provokes this apathy???

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MazzleDazzle · 23/09/2021 08:19

I’m stunned by it. Though sadly, not surprised.

I’m friends with lots of woke women who are under the age of 30. Every single one of them posted something on their social media feed when Sarah was murdered.

‘She was walking home/Text when you get home’ etc. The unspoken thing was ‘it could have been me’.

Not one of them has posted about Sabina.

I haven’t seen any coverage on it at all. The only reason I know about it is through following Women’s Aid. I shared the post yesterday and two people have reacted to the post. Two!

I know the cases are different in some ways, but I don’t doubt for a second that if the Sabina had been missing the coverage would have been any different.

CatsOperatingInGangs · 23/09/2021 08:20

Where are the headlines? Where are the protests? It makes me ashamed how little the media cares.

Zampa · 23/09/2021 08:26

It was in the top 10 stories on the BBC News app for a few days and there's a vigil planned for tomorrow night. The case features highly on my Twitter feed (but algorithms I guess).

However, I agree that it hasn't featured in the news as highly as GP and SE. However, these cases feature specific features (GP missing for days having set up a popular blog/SE killed by a copper) that makes them more unusual.

Hundreds of women are killed every year and we barely hear about them. The commonality of it means that it's not newsworthy.

Jaysmith71 · 23/09/2021 08:26

Would have been different if Sabina had been the victim of an 'honour killing.' Then it would be all over the tab front pages.

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Fariha31 · 23/09/2021 08:32

It was on the London BBC news last night. Was it on the national news? I am assuming the other murders were on the national news?

Tibtom · 23/09/2021 08:32

@Jaysmith71

Would have been different if Sabina had been the victim of an 'honour killing.' Then it would be all over the tab front pages.
Who knows? But if she was was a popular blogger missing in suspicious circumstances with a boyfriend who turned up 10 days later in her van then the police and her family might have decided that publicity could be a good way to try and find her.
Aroundtheworldin80moves · 23/09/2021 08:34

On BBC this morning the fraud trial involving a reality TV star was a higher billing...

Jaysmith71 · 23/09/2021 08:36

This is a local London story. Nothing on the national media.

It is reminiscent of Levi Bellfield's final victim on Richmond Green.

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anothermansshoes · 23/09/2021 08:41

I hadn't seen it anywhere

KimikosNightmare · 23/09/2021 08:45

@Fariha31

It was on the London BBC news last night. Was it on the national news? I am assuming the other murders were on the national news?
It was. I'm in Scotland and I've seen this reported on television news.
Wbeezer · 23/09/2021 08:48

I knew about it to, it was high up in the story ranking in the Guardian.

KimikosNightmare · 23/09/2021 08:50

This has been reported in the national newspapers. I don't watch ITV news or Sky News but both online versions have reported it.

BIWI · 23/09/2021 08:51

I'm not sure what media you're reading/watching if you haven't seen it all over it Confused

There's a big difference between the two cases in that Sarah was missing for some time, so there were several days before her body was found - and therefore it was daily news as they hunted for her.

MorrisZapp · 23/09/2021 08:52

I've seen lots of people wondering where the protests are, surely protests are a grass roots thing? Ie if nobody organises a protest, there won't be a protest.

It's up to individuals to create the momentum they seek.

dolorsit · 23/09/2021 08:59

I'm in the north and have seen this on national news and prominently on the bbc and guardian websites. I am also aware of the vigil.

I agree that ethnicity and class does impact on coverage but in both the other cases you mentioned the women were missing for days and their families and friends were publicising their disappearance.

Beowulfa · 23/09/2021 09:04

It was in the Metro this morning with comment from the Mayor of London.

Missing women/children seem to generate a specific media interest. Also the Everard case was during lockdown, when anything other than COVID was a novelty.

MistandMud · 23/09/2021 09:05

I get your point.
I do think that the more a victim immediately reminds you of yourself or your own child or close friend, the more it hits home with that punch to the gut. And much of the UK population is white, so it’s more likely that a white victim will look like someone close.

Often all we really know of a victim initially is their image from that heartbreaking smiling head and shoulders photo, so appearance determines part of the emotional reaction.

May her soul rest in peace.

bellinisurge · 23/09/2021 09:11

Her poor family. And her pupils and colleagues. Just terrible. Surely this should be front page news.

sashagabadon · 23/09/2021 09:13

It’s very shocking. Sabina walking through a busy park at about 8pm. I think it is dark ish then but still they’d be dog walkers, joggers etc about. Unbelievable really. I’ve heard a lot about it but live in London so that may be why. The other massive case with the woman and 3 kids murdered also doesn’t seem to have made much of a ripple.
It’s very depressing. Watching Manhunt last night where the target was elderly women in their beds.
All these cases are very different on the surface and yet all the same. One man in each case causing misery. It’s depressing.
I don’t think it helps to compare to Sarah Everand, that was a missing person case for a few days and then only blew up when the perpetrator was found to be a police officer. Up till that point it was also fairly local news.

FionaMacCool · 23/09/2021 09:15

I'm in Ireland and there are pieces on both RTE (national broadcaster www.rte.ie/news/uk/2021/0923/1248498-sabina-nessa-investigation/)
and in one of our main newspapers (www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/body-of-murdered-teacher-sabina-nessa-lay-undiscovered-for-hours-after-her-murder-40877097.html)

I agree that the level of coverage is not the same as SE.
I suspect that Sabina's skin colour has affected how much prominence has been given to the story.
Poor poor girl.
RIP

KaptainKaveman · 23/09/2021 09:16

It's all over the news.
Nice try OP.

nyktipolos · 23/09/2021 09:22

Its been on tbe national news for days. 2 days ago they were talking about vigil that being organised for tomorrow.

There's lots if coverage. I am from a similar back ground to Sabina and I am getting sick of people race baiting. Spinning complete lies like its only been a local story so you can use her race to show how woke you are?

There's loads of reasons that isn't not been covered as widely as other cases. Race maybe be a part of it but a small part. There's loads of other reasons.

You can guarantee if she wasn't in London, there would be even less news.

But no one seems concerned women from Yorkshire are murdered with little to no reporting.

I have been up since 5am. Its been all over the news this morning. Not just in London. I don't live there.

It was last night. It was 2 days ago.

What is the point of these threads, when it's just a pile of lies? It's not addressing any of the real issues at all.

flapjackfairy · 23/09/2021 09:22

I have seen coverage on the national news and all.major news sites online for the last few days. Her cousin was interviewed last night on BBC news. She was a lovely young woman and it is awful what has happened to her.
I really dont understand the attempts to imply it was ignored due to her ethnicity though . It has had a lot of coverage and lots of people are murdered each week and are never even mentioned on the national news at all.

KaptainKaveman · 23/09/2021 09:28

@Nyktipolos has it. "Race baiting...to show how woke you are"

Exactly.

Hoppinggreen · 23/09/2021 09:29

It’s the headline in the Mail online

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