Sabina Nessa: The Deafening Silence

[Jaysmith71]

Just a local London story. Far less interest than Sarah Everard, also in London. Far less interest than Gabby Petito thousands of miles away.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58639602

Now whatever is it about Sabina Nesser that provokes this apathy???

@MazzleDazzle

I’m stunned by it. Though sadly, not surprised.

I’m friends with lots of woke women who are under the age of 30. Every single one of them posted something on their social media feed when Sarah was murdered.

‘She was walking home/Text when you get home’ etc. The unspoken thing was ‘it could have been me’.

Not one of them has posted about Sabina.

I haven’t seen any coverage on it at all. The only reason I know about it is through following Women’s Aid. I shared the post yesterday and two people have reacted to the post. Two!

I know the cases are different in some ways, but I don’t doubt for a second that if the Sabina had been missing the coverage would have been any different.

Your problem is with your friends and your social media group- not the national news media.

@Jaysmith71

Would have been different if Sabina had been the victim of an 'honour killing.' Then it would be all over the tab front pages.

This crime has been reported in all mainstream news outlets.

You are clearly creating your own agenda.

@nyktipolos

Its been on tbe national news for days. 2 days ago they were talking about vigil that being organised for tomorrow.

There's lots if coverage. I am from a similar back ground to Sabina and I am getting sick of people race baiting. Spinning complete lies like its only been a local story so you can use her race to show how woke you are?

There's loads of reasons that isn't not been covered as widely as other cases. Race maybe be a part of it but a small part. There's loads of other reasons.

You can guarantee if she wasn't in London, there would be even less news.

But no one seems concerned women from Yorkshire are murdered with little to no reporting.

I have been up since 5am. Its been all over the news this morning. Not just in London. I don't live there.

It was last night. It was 2 days ago.

What is the point of these threads, when it's just a pile of lies? It's not addressing any of the real issues at all.

I agree with nykti and actually I think if it was quiet to begin with it's because the media thought a man known to her had done it. There is no story in DV, or violence caused by men known to the victim, it happens every day and society as a whole doesn't care, the women that get killed every week often don't even get mentioned in their local Echo. Now it seems like a stranger murderer her that is more 'interesting' more likely to sell papers or get clicks. Because it is more unusual.

To Sabina's family, I am so very sorry.

I have seen a lot of coverage. And lots of people posting on Instagram too. Much more than about Gabby Petito, although nowhere near the same level of coverage as Sarah Everard.

I don't know what assumption sone of you are making here but every woman I know pretty much has posted something on their social media about this.

I have seen the story everywhere. On the news, in the papers.
Where is the silence?

It’s the top headline on the DM site with “Who killed Sabina” as the headline.

Unfortunately we all know at least two women every single week are murdered in this country, not many get any headline other than something along the lines of “it’s a domestic” or “an isolated incident” 😡
Black and Asian woman get even less publicity so yes that is a huge issue, but the killing of women in general needs much more consideration and action.

NW resident here. I only knew about Sabina Nessa's murder because LBC is my station of choice. Shocked at lack of outrage.
RIP beautiful girl. 💔

But no one seems concerned women from Yorkshire are murdered with little to no reporting

There were several threads about Henny Beaumont's work in which she painted all the women and girls who'd been murdered in 2020. One poster was shocked to learn that some of the killings had been local to her and she hadn't heard of them.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4220049-disappearing-women-a-beautiful-tribute?msgid=106547110

I dont live in England, and it has been on all my news feeds for the last 2 days. That poor woman.

There are a whole list of reasons that the case has different levels of coverage. Race will be one, as will the fact they have a suspect so different reporting restrictions are in place, and also unlike SE or GP this didn't start out as a missing persons case in the media. It doesn't make the difference in coverage ok, just more complex in terms of why.

I think your comments on honour killings are very telling in terms of your own agenda here.

@KaptainKaveman

It's all over the news. Nice try OP.

No it’s really not. I agree with you OP. I only heard about this case this morning. Why the sly- nice try? Because someone is confronting you with the fact we live in a systemically racist society? Because we do you know.

They are taking about Sabina on Womans Hour now. There to be a vigil in London for Sabina tomorrow night.

106 women have been murdered so far this year by men in the UK.

Emma Barnett is going a very good job at interviewing the Policing minister.

First question “Why are men still killing woman?”

I follow The Guardian & the BBC and it hasn’t came up on my newsfeed at all, which I’m assuming is to do with the algorithm. I trawled through it again to check, and it didn’t come up.

That number is shocking @LizzieSiddal. Every one of those women should have made front page news.

Most murders of women don’t make the news. It’s too common a phenomenon.
If women were killing men at the same rate, in particular men being murdered by female strangers we’d all know about it.
There was a terrible case where a very young woman was murdered by a man is his fifties while she was out jogging in a wildlife beauty spot last year sometime, very little publicity as obviously not that newsworthy
It got me wondering if the reverse had ever happened, a young man in his late teens out jogging and murdered randomly by a fifty year old (stranger)woman and I would bet it never ever has in the history of humankind.

Poor woman - and the killer is still walking around out there somewhere. I hope they get him very quickly. I had seen the story on my newsfeeds (I don’t get the papers these days) - I don’t think I have heard it in the radio though.

Maybe it was eclipsed by the murder of the mum and the three children?

It's been in my Twitter feed since Monday. Lots of feminist orgs are following it. The Met published an appeal on Twitter for information this morning. Sky and LBC are also following the story.

I agree with you. I'm not in the UK and it has made the news but not to the extend as the Sarah case. That too could be to do with the reaction of the public, that seemed to be a bigger story that the murder itself and a lot of that was due to her friends and family being so vocal on social media.

I just went to look at my newsfeed and she is the ‘top story’. Followed by another young woman murdered.

I've heard about this a lot but it is local to me. It's also one of the main stories on the BBC news.

Her poor family - just walking home from work.

@Jaysmith71

Would have been different if Sabina had been the victim of an 'honour killing.' Then it would be all over the tab front pages.

I completely disagree.

I get very angry about the reporting of honour killings in the media because my perception is that they are actively hushed up.

Similarly I had not heard about Gabby Petito until I opened a thread on here. But I have been reading stories about Sabina Nessa in the mainstream media for several days now. I think this is somewhat an issue about what news sources people consume (social vs mainstream media) and what jumps out at them, either because of their own biases (it may be that I noticed the stories about Sabina Nessa because she is a woman of colour like me) or because algorithms literally show us what to read and keep us away from other stories.

I had heard about this but it probably resonated because dd has just moved to london

I only read the basics though so I didn’t know she was a woman of colour

I agree with this. I had only heard about Sabina's murder today and I believe it happened a week ago? I'm not someone who keeps hourly track of the news but I was aware of Sarah Everard on the evening she disappeared.

I've also noticed that when older women, of any ethnic background, are murdered, there is hardly any coverage nationally. A woman local to me was raped and murdered in her own home by a repeat sex offender (who had broken in, having just been released from prison after serving time for a previous offence). There was a lot about it in the local news but I didn't see anything on the national news, at all. And when her rape and murder was reported, she was almost uniformly described in headlines as a 'pensioner' or 'OAP' - rather than simply 'woman'.

This has been all over the news for the last couple of days?

How had people only heard about this news story today?!