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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Marion Millar

236 replies

Sexnotgender · 14/09/2021 18:55

I just read Marion is having to put her home on the market.

I’m fucking incandescent with rage at this bullshit.

How do we help?

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Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 16:07

...so the two people suffering 'fear and alarm' are:

The actor, frightened by a ribbon and/or a not-a-real-witch.

The copper who nicked MM and threatened to take her kids away.

RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 16:11

@MargaritaPie

"Marion Millar, 50, allegedly behaved in a threatening or abusive manner between October 2020 and June 2021 within the Glasgow area and Rutherglen, South Lanarkshire."

There. I apologise for any inaccuracies in my previous post as the article doesn't specify if the alleged behaviour allegedly took place in public or private area(s).

It wasn't an innaccuracy in your post, it was you deliberately being disingenuous in your relentless crusade against Marion.

Oh and alleged refers to the behaviour not the place, nice try on spinning it again.

Waitwhat23 · 15/09/2021 16:17

My post stating that Margarita has made slurs against the Scots was deleted despite being demonstrably true on various threads (check out any thread about Marion's case which Margarita has commented on).

Feel free to keep reporting it. I will keep reposting it. It is a true statement.

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 16:19

@Jaysmith71

...so the two people suffering 'fear and alarm' are:

The actor, frightened by a ribbon and/or a not-a-real-witch.

The copper who nicked MM and threatened to take her kids away.

My posts here have been nitpicked to every single word.

So perhaps I could ask if you have evidence to backup the allegations you have made here?

HAHelp · 15/09/2021 16:26

oh yes I remember MP's jibes about Scotland/Scottish people on other threads

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 16:27

I make no 'allegations.'

The charge is a matter of public record:

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19547978.scots-feminist-hate-crime-case-continued-consider-human-rights-issues/

As are the identities of the allegedly injured parties:

news.stv.tv/west-central/feminist-accused-of-sending-homophobic-and-transphobic-tweets?top

Three counts, one about the actor and two about the officer.

ArabellaScott · 15/09/2021 16:29

I've never understood why some people have animus towards the Scots. It's so odd.

RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 16:33

@ArabellaScott

I've never understood why some people have animus towards the Scots. It's so odd.
I think they are quite happy if the Scots behave and speak as they want them too.
MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 16:52

"I make no 'allegations.'"

Your previous post said this: "The copper who nicked MM and threatened to take her kids away."

I'm asking if you have evidence an officer did indeed make that threat?

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 17:08

Your source for a potentially defamatory accusation against a police officer is a tweet from someone who has been charged over it?

"The charge also alleges Ms Millar wrote personal and false information relating to a female police constable on social media."

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19547978.scots-feminist-hate-crime-case-continued-consider-human-rights-issues/

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/09/2021 17:11

The copper who nicked MM and threatened to take her kids away.

And isn't it interesting that this alleged offence happened after she was first spoken too, and the apparent hundreds of homophobic/transphobic tweets receive no mention at all... Almost as if they were struggling for something that would stick...

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 15/09/2021 17:14

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/09/2021 17:20

As people keep saying, the process is the punishment. Regardless of what happens in court her life has been hugely impacted, and a very strong message has been sent to women.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 15/09/2021 17:21

This reply has been deleted

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RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 17:24

And your source and evidence that that is the alleged false information referred to is?

That article you attach gives zero detail and yet again you confidently assert that that is the tweet.

Once again you state as fact something which you don't and cannot know as the case is sub judice and the exact details are not in the public domain.

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 17:29

"Once again you state as fact"

tbh the post on here I'm concerned about is by Jaysmith71 Wed 15-Sep-21 16:07:31 which states a couple of things as "fact".

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 17:31

We have no idea whether or not MM's accusations about the officer are the alleged 'false information.'

We know that PC Gul denied Harry Miller's claim that he spoke about needing to 'check your thinking.' Harry had this in contemporaneous notes, like the good ex-copper that he is.

MM wrote her tweets about the arrest shortly afterwards. Is it now an allegation that she fabricated the whole thing motivated by the fact the officer was gay before knowing this was the case?

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 17:31

"That article you attach gives zero detail and yet again you confidently assert that that is the tweet."

I haven't posted any tweets. I asked what Jaysmith's source for her claims was and she was the one who posted a tweet.

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 17:34

All of this is for the court to determine.

I report what others have said. It is a fact that they said it. To accuse them of lying without evidence is defamatory.

nauticant · 15/09/2021 17:36

Anyone on this thread is free to decide that wrestling with a pig isn't worth it.

ClosDesMouches · 15/09/2021 17:40

@nauticant

Anyone on this thread is free to decide that wrestling with a pig isn't worth it.
Exactly this. I am fed up of seeing the derailing of threads about MM.
RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 18:12

@MargaritaPie

"That article you attach gives zero detail and yet again you confidently assert that that is the tweet."

I haven't posted any tweets. I asked what Jaysmith's source for her claims was and she was the one who posted a tweet.

and you decided that tweet was the one referenced in the allegation of a potentially defamatory accusation against a police officer, this is what you said:

Your source for a potentially defamatory accusation against a police officer is a tweet from someone who has been charged over it?

Ergo you are stating as fact that Marion has been charged over the tweet that Jaysmith posted.

suggestionsplease1 · 15/09/2021 18:57

So the original charges weren't strong enough in the end and then the situation was ballsed up by posting about the police officer involved, and that does seem to be sticking? (Well court case pending, granted.)

That really is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 19:21

An accusation against the police has been made by not one by two posters here (also see Passmeamenuatthetottenham Wed 15-Sep-21 17:14:51).

I asked for a source for the potentially defamatory accusation from jay and all he/she could reply with was a tweet from Marion?

quote from Jaysmith71: "As are the identities of the allegedly injured parties"

The articles you linked don't actually name any of the complainants.

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