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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Marion Millar

236 replies

Sexnotgender · 14/09/2021 18:55

I just read Marion is having to put her home on the market.

I’m fucking incandescent with rage at this bullshit.

How do we help?

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GeorgiaMcGraw · 15/09/2021 14:51

@MargaritaPie

The proof is all there on her Twitter
Tweets so inoffensive that they didn't even breach twitter rules Grin
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/09/2021 14:54

The Scotsman article says the charges include "allegedly behaved in a threatening or abusive manner" in public, disclosing where a named person was working and identifying/posting false info about an officer.

No it doesn't.
www.scotsman.com/news/crime/marion-millar-scots-woman-appears-in-court-accused-of-sending-homophobic-and-transphobic-tweets-3365741

Broadly the charges relate to behaving in a threatening / abusive manner & posting homophobic / transphobic abuse.

Specifically:

It is claimed Millar posted a photograph on social media of a sign where a named Scots actor was working at the time

She retweeted a picture of a suffragette ribbon on a fence next to a road near the River City studios.

The charge alleges Millar disclosed personal information relating to a female police constable on social media.

She posted a publically available and actively promoted puff piece about the female constable.

Millar is further claimed to have communicated on social media about the officer, which contained false information.

It has been suggested that the officers involvement in this case is not unrelated to Police Scotland's relationship with Stonewall and this police officers relationship with the Police Scotland LGBT org.

The offence is said to have been aggravated by prejudice related to sexual orientation.

The individual who complained about the "noose" is gay. The police officer involved is lesbian.

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 14:54

Maybe it is the ribbon, which is not linked to any 'sign' except in a Saussurian sense, but is captioned mentioning the workplace of the individual.

The 'witchs' (they're not real witches, kiddies) are holding up a 'sign.'

Who knows? But it's one or the other, not both, not the other rude comments about sex offenders, but, amazingly, two charges relating to the precious copper who was traumatised by someone commenting on her online profile which she uploaded.

Artichokeleaves · 15/09/2021 14:54

Do screenshot and evidence all this.

You might want to pop it along side the tweets such as the one wanting to burn her children in their beds.

Then we can talk about what malicious communications look like, and who should be in court. Because otherwise it's just massive double standards to disguise how this is actually not about malicious communications at all, it's about silencing women.

RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 14:54

MM's supporters are making this case out to be a case of "against her human rights" or "against women" or "criminalising her for what she thinks" or things like that. But she isn't charged for what she believes, she's charged for what she's actually done.

You've missed out the word allegedly in there, as usual you are presuming guilt on the basis of being charged, thank fuck you are not in charge of the Justice system - being charged with any offence does not mean you are guilty of it, even offences as hideous as murder, evidence has to be supplied that proves your guilt and that is decided by the Court, not you, not me, not random mobs on Twitter.

You @MargaritaPie can't seem to comprehend that whatever Marion has been charged with may not actually turn out to be an offence at all, as I said thank fuck you are not in charge of the Justice system.

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 14:55

"Tweets so inoffensive that they didn't even breach twitter rules grin"

You should be on her legal team and be defending her in court Grin

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 14:57

"You might want to pop it along side the tweets such as the one wanting to burn her children in their beds."

Wasn't aware of that. Are there screenshots?

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 14:57

All I will say is that Lily Maynard's blog and 'the curious case of Marion Millar' is your friend here.

RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 15:00

@MargaritaPie

The proof is all there on her Twitter
Which you apparently have seen, haven't seen, has been deleted, can't be bothered to find - you have used every single one of those in pursuance of your beef against Marion. You can't even be consistent.
yourhairiswinterfire · 15/09/2021 15:06

Marion's tweets about her arrest and the police officer are still there on her Twitter account.

I see no ''hate'' or ''phobia'', I see a woman who was terrified of being arrested because she didn't want to leave her disabled children, and she was scared she'd be held for the weekend away from them, being as it was a bank holiday.

Funny how people are so sure of her ''hatred'' and ''phobia'' (despite having no proof), yet have nothing to say about the real, actual hate and threats being directed at her. Her son was doxxed, threatened, Marion has been threatened, a Uni student posed with guns implying he was going to shoot her. And now some utter creep has photographed her disabled children getting into their carer's car, and has threatened to burn Marion and the children alive in their sleep.

And they don't even know what she's supposed to have done wrong. We see where the real hate is coming from. We fucking see you, misogynist MRA's.

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/09/2021 15:09

Suggest people don't engage further with MargaritaPie. This is an ongoing court case.

ScreamingMeMe · 15/09/2021 15:09

Oh what a surprise to see Marguerita with her Marion obsession and misinformation on this thread.

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/09/2021 15:10

Indeed, Screaming.

I've reported Margarita's posts.

ScreamingMeMe · 15/09/2021 15:11

@BoreOfWhabylon

Suggest people don't engage further with MargaritaPie. This is an ongoing court case.
Agreed.
MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 15:13

"and misinformation on this thread."

Unlike anyone else here, I'm quoting from a news article.

Waitwhat23 · 15/09/2021 15:23

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RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 15:23

@MargaritaPie

"and misinformation on this thread."

Unlike anyone else here, I'm quoting from a news article.

Quoting incorrectly and spinning it you mean.
RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 15:43

I have.

Show me where in the article it says this:

allegedly behaved in a threatening or abusive manner" in public areas,

It doesn't, that is your interpretation and spin.

Note how the article carefully used the word allegedly, that means it's not a fact, it hasn't been proved, it's not incontrovertible - you know the innocent until proven guilty cornerstone of Justice which you seem incapable of applying.

Tibtom · 15/09/2021 15:48

It is claimed Millar posted a photograph on social media of a sign where a named Scots actor was working at the time

Oh dear, the police are going to be busy. And these are but a taster of the dreadful signs on social media.

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MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 15:50

"Marion Millar, 50, allegedly behaved in a threatening or abusive manner between October 2020 and June 2021 within the Glasgow area and Rutherglen, South Lanarkshire."

There. I apologise for any inaccuracies in my previous post as the article doesn't specify if the alleged behaviour allegedly took place in public or private area(s).

Tibtom · 15/09/2021 15:52

Nor does it state that this was not because she posted a picture of a suffragette ribbon.

Waitwhat23 · 15/09/2021 15:54

@MargaritaPie

"Marion Millar, 50, allegedly behaved in a threatening or abusive manner between October 2020 and June 2021 within the Glasgow area and Rutherglen, South Lanarkshire."

There. I apologise for any inaccuracies in my previous post as the article doesn't specify if the alleged behaviour allegedly took place in public or private area(s).

No, you just added it yourself. Not an inaccuracy. A lie.
ArabellaScott · 15/09/2021 15:58

'inaccuracies' in quote marks to lend the semblance of veracity? Disingenuous.

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 16:01

Charged under Section 38 of the Communications and Licensing (Scotland) Act:

www.livbrown.co.uk/news/criminal-defence/section-38-of-the-criminal-justice-and-licensing-scotland-act-2010