Jolyon - not satisfied with telling women about gender now defines their ethnicity

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Tonight after Emma Raducanu's victory Jolyon has tweeted

When they're white the Express loves immigrants.

twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1436219230815404035?s=21

I am seething. She is very proud of her mixed heritage. Before the match, the commentary team were talking about how Emma and Laylah Fernandez both come from diverse backgrounds. But Jolyon doesn't bother to check any facts, just assumes she is white

I think he lives in his own world.

Despite people pointing out that she is half Chinese and half Romanian, he is still motoring on with the ethnicity he is assigning to her. Sure, JM seems to think he can declare who is a woman and who isn't; to women. So why not declare a woman's ethnicity for her too.

Riding on the coat tails of the capable and talented Joanna Cherry gave him the appearance of having a credibility which he does not in reality possess. In my very humble opinion.

I've not heard or read a single bit of commentary about Emma's race. He's basically starting a race row, and when people respond, he'll say, "See, told you so, they're obsessed with race."

Bloody hell.

That's really bad.

Just had a bit of a look through recent posts.

I can't see anything about her being the first UK woman to get to grand slam final in 40ish years.

No comment on her winning.

The only interest he has is in using her to slag off some papers. Because he's looked at a pic and thought oh yeah I think she looks white.

He has zero interest in her massive achievement or her as a person at all.

It's totally shit.

I had read a fair bit about her parents and background.

He obviously has no interest in her or her massive achievement. What an arsehole.

I see no evidence of hostility to Mo Farah, Jofra Archer, Izzy Wong or the Porter sisters.

The only interest he has is in using her to slag off some papers. Because he's looked at a pic and thought oh yeah I think she looks white.

Yep. Just an opportunity for him to virtue signal to the crowd. I don't know how someone could watch that amazing bit of sporting history (assuming he did) then that be what you want to tweet first.

He could have made a different point about the Express only supporting successful immigrants, but instead he makes a rather racist assumption that her parents must be white.

He obviously hasn’t followed the story, but I don’t understand why he wouldn’t quickly Google her before tweeting.

He’s a nasty misogynistic racist. I loathe this man. What exactly has he achieved with his life so far??

What an incredible achievement for such a young woman - I am in awe of her. I hope she will be a great role model to girls and women everywhere.

I know nothing about her and the situation, but my immediate reaction is that she doesn’t even look white in that picture he’s attached. I think he’s thoroughly lost the plot and am amazed that there are people still championing him.

This seems to be a habit of middle class , white male lawyers. I once went to a woman in law event and some arse of a QC snottily commented that the event wasn’t diverse because “all the women were white .” He had completely missed the three Asian and mixed race women in the picture. Oh and of course he was a white guy. I have no idea why these guys do it but it makes them seem idiotic.

And I have no idea what people who 'look white' are supposed to look like. One of the good things about being British is that no one gives a stuff about your ancestors. Boris Johnson is partially Turkish. Iain Duncan-Smith is one-eighth Japanese. Ed Miliband is insufficiently Belgian.

Do Not Care.

You do have to admire the circular logic some people construct in their heads.

"I think people don't like immigration because they're racist. People aren't attacking this immigrant, who I think is white. That just shows how racist they are".

(And it's possible there's an extra circular loop in there where he assumes she's white because people aren't being racist.)

Makes me dizzy just working through it.

I guess it helps understand why he "brain swoons" at Judith Butler, when you see what is own internal though processes look like.

Thank goodness we've got proper QCs working on all the cases we're crowdfunding...

@WeeBisom

This seems to be a habit of middle class , white male lawyers. I once went to a woman in law event and some arse of a QC snottily commented that the event wasn’t diverse because “all the women were white .” He had completely missed the three Asian and mixed race women in the picture. Oh and of course he was a white guy. I have no idea why these guys do it but it makes them seem idiotic.

Couldn’t agree more with this.

Not long ago I got chatting with a pleasant-seeming man who had recently moved into my local area. He was extolling it’s virtues and seemed really pleased to have relocated to a place that ticked many of his wish-list boxes - for example, he was able to afford a beautiful flat with a view over greenery close to the private tennis courts that he played at every day…then, as if he suddenly realised that he needed to “check his privilege” he announced:
But it’s not very diverse here, is it?
I replied - assuming he meant racial diversity- no, it’s not, you’d need to move closer to a big city if you want racial diversity.
He said (critical tone): it is such a shame that it’s not more diverse.
I felt he was trying to goad me into an argument so I just said - well perhaps you can’t have everything you want in one place?
He walked away from me. I think he wanted me to join in a middle-class whinge-fest about, oh, such a shame that our community isn’t more DIVERSE.

Pure virtue signalling and I wasn’t buying it. What a stupid, shallow man with his private tennis courts 😳

Its, not it’s 😬

Is he using "white" to mean "non-black"? And in doing so is eliminating her Chinese parentage?

Reminds me in a way of referring to women as "non-men".

She clearly isn't white, and even if she were just of Romanian heritage it's not as if the British press has been cheerleading immigration from that part of the world either.

Has Jolyon imbibed the current American thinking that Asian people (and Arabic people and people from some African countries) are in fact white? I wouldn't put it past him.

Is he using "white" to mean "non-black"?

I think he is using "white" to mean successful and middle class.

There's a certain type of privileged progressive person whose main interest in race is that it provides them with a stick to beat other people who they view as being morally inferior.

One reason to do this is to deflect attention away from their privilege. Which is often considerable.

This also applies to other progressive causes.

Excellent point.

What exactly has he achieved with his life so far??

Well, he did once beat a fox to death with a baseball bat, let's not forget that!

Accroding to the rules of South African Apartheid, the Japanese were white but the Chinese were Indian.

Surely this guy is a joke by now, I dont know why anyone pays any attention to what comes out of his mouth.