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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Self indulgent or what?

115 replies

GCmiddle · 06/09/2021 15:59

Read it and weep (or laugh!)
www.them.us/story/multiple-sets-of-pronouns

OP posts:
drinkingwineoutofamug · 06/09/2021 16:10

Wow and not a good wow

lazylinguist · 06/09/2021 16:11

Fgs Hmm

ditalini · 06/09/2021 16:12

Exhausting.

Yerdoinmanapperinwiyerpish · 06/09/2021 16:14

I’ve got cis ears????

RoseisMadder · 06/09/2021 16:18

I wonder what ages those people are, more relevant than pronouns…. I’d put money on late teens/early 20s

FrancescaContini · 06/09/2021 16:22

Jeeeeeeezus

Note: you have to “gently ask” what pronouns are used, not “assume” = you have to walk on tiptoes around me and not dare cause me any offence.

I’ve never ever read anything so self absorbed although there were a couple of new words for me in there: “gendervoid” pretty much sums up this bullshit.

Yerdoinmanapperinwiyerpish · 06/09/2021 16:26

you have to “gently ask” what pronouns are used,

I’m presuming I have to do that with my cis mouth.

They’ll be a long time waiting till I find it…

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/09/2021 16:30

that my gender as a non-binary person cannot be reduced to being “a they.” In fact, it can’t be contained in any single word. The point isn’t that it can be contained in two words she and they. Rather, in the murk of asking that folks shift between the two, I resist linguistic structures that prioritize classification and stability over expression and fluidity. I become a queer little problem for anyone indeed any system — aiming to absorb the rupture wrought by non-binaryness by casting it as a third gender. This is all to say I locate my identity less within the pronouns she/they, and more through the conjunction that joins them: not or, but and. And affords an openness to multiplicity, to those changes upon changes that construct our ever-forming selves.

"Siri: define narcissism."

Kanaloa · 06/09/2021 16:32

What is ‘xe?’ Like how do you say it, what does it mean? I presume it would be pronounced with a soft x, but then to you say yes xe works at xyz?

BraveBananaBadge · 06/09/2021 16:32

Jesus Christ. Did anyone actually get to the end of that? Absolutely insufferable.

Demanding people indulge this made up toss while simultaneously being pass-agg dismissive of anyone who can't keep up. Linguistic gaslighting, much?

Kanaloa · 06/09/2021 16:32

The whole thing just feels like someone saying I am special, I can not be defined by the boring words that define others - I’m not a boring he or she like normal people.

QueenPeary · 06/09/2021 16:33

Blimey.

I resist linguistic structures that prioritize classification and stability over expression and fluidity.

They're called words dear, words.

And "folks" - why do genderists always talk about "folks", as if the concept of erasing women, sex categories and same sex attraction won't be worrying if it's all done by those nice folksy folks?

I am really at my wits' end with this at the moment.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/09/2021 16:36

The folksy folks thing is bizarre, I agree.

AnyOldPrion · 06/09/2021 16:37

Sorry OP, I couldn’t read it. My eyes were rolling too much.

Igmum · 06/09/2021 16:38

[Looks at diary trying to figure out when I am going to find time to schedule in multiple sensitive pronoun conversations with everyone I interact with on a regular basis. Holds head in hands]

Joolsin · 06/09/2021 16:39

That was the greatest load of navel-gazing, self-obsessed horseshit I have ever had the misfortune to read. How can anyone take this seriously?

cheeseismydownfall · 06/09/2021 16:39

That's nice, dear.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/09/2021 16:39

This casual throwaway sentence really irritates me:

But she didn’t feel right either (other than when kiking with my fellow queers).

So when you were with other males who identified as "she" you decided it was appropriate to do so, because it doesn't really actually mean anything, does it?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/09/2021 16:42

And of course there had to be a "he/she/they" Confused

Bobby Sanchez (he/she/they): The existence of people who use multiple pronouns gives me hope for the future because it makes me feel like there are others like me out there. Identity evolves and so does the way we describe it. There were gender fluid societies before colonization, and we must decolonize the Eurocentric gender construction in order to create a better, safer planet. Claiming to be trans, non-binary, Two-Spirit, and queer and using multiple pronouns as well as they/them helps us move towards a day where gender identity is validated and respected throughout society.

bamboocat · 06/09/2021 16:42

The word 'they' denotes the plural.

The singular would be 'he', 'she' or 'it'. Or, if none of those suit, how about 'wossname' as an alternative?

PermanentTemporary · 06/09/2021 16:43

'I often joke about thehe/himtohe/theytothey/themtothey/shetoshe/hertoshe/theypipeline when describing how I arrived at my current pronouns'

The long winter evenings must fucking fly by

Notsandwiches · 06/09/2021 16:45

Perhaps "it" might be a better pronoun?

beastlyslumber · 06/09/2021 16:45

The existence of articles like this makes me wonder if this really is the hell world after all.

Kanaloa · 06/09/2021 16:45

Although for those who are he/she/they, presumably you have to ask every time you see them what pronouns they are using today, so really just an attention grabbing stunt.

viques · 06/09/2021 16:45

Every day a school day.

I thought I had a good vocabulary but neopronouns were a new one, as was cisheteronormative understanding. I might be willing to embrace divine femininity if I knew what it was , but mostly I am so relieved that I am an old bat who is happy in her skin and doesn’t have to fill up brain space with navel gazing wokeness. It must be exhausting self affirming yourself into a new vocabulary every few months.

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