Self indulgent or what?

[GCmiddle]

Read it and weep (or laugh!)
www.them.us/story/multiple-sets-of-pronouns

Christ alive. Despair.

Wonder whether we could take the opportunity to rid the English language of all different pronouns and just have a single set of pronouns for everyone. Pronouns are crappy: they just emphasise difference and gender roles.

Might be tricky to decide which pronouns to adopt probably he/his/him, given that we all know that men are the default humans. I don't think I'd care which were chosen though.

Allies do not get to decide what makes good allyship, how the fight is fought, or whether or not a person is an ally. We'll let you know what we need from you

They just want/ need a sandwich.

Serious question. Why does anyone need to “affirm” these people or anyone?

You should not need to be validated by others. Expecting anyone to affirm you shows you have self esteem issues and you need to look within yourself for validation.

I don’t understand why we all have to participate in this when they can easily just love themselves and leave us all out of this. If you truly love yourself then you don’t need anyone to “affirm” you. If you can’t validate and love yourself then don’t demand others to do this to make you feel better.

Adults demanding others to validate them. Not problematic at all!

We'll let you know what we need from you

Oh, they will, will they?!

Agree marshmallow. Demanding that people validate you and agree with your opinion of yourself used to be called being a needy pain in the arse.

What I can’t understand is why so many policymakers and politicians and schools etc can’t see this for what it is - navel-gazing meaningless tosh that really does not put someone into a special category that requires protection or respect. Sitting around thinking up what wanky titles you’re going to demand other people call you is not being transsexual. It’s a massive epidemic of self-importance and sel-appointed specialness that’s piggybacked off the original meaning of being trans - and even that involved a clash of rights and shouldn’t be prioritised above all else.

Why have they all gone so mad for this?

Well this is awkward

I’ve got ‘CIS ears’?

Mind. Blown.

If yo

If you have cis ears I think it's probably tinitus.

@bamboocat

We'll let you know what we need from you

Oh, they will, will they?!

Spoiler: it's usually money.

I'll admit I didn't get to the end of it, but are there really people out there who assume people talk about them THIS MUCH in their absence, that we need such intricate, detailed rules about how we must refer to them when they can't hear it??

I'm pretty sure people stop even thinking about me once I've left their presence. I have never felt a need to say "and once I've left, please refer to me as 'she/her' when discussing how special I am".

Good grief. I weep for the self-absorbed. Presumably they never read the news and see what is going on in the world beyond the end of their nose...

Jesus Christ. Did anyone actually get to the end of that?

No. What a load of wank.

They need to get a hobby. Or in the sea. Whichever.

We'll let you know what we need from you

Actually it's OK, I think I'll pass thanks hun x

Actually that bit at the bottom of the @them twitter quote is intersting.

I mean duh. Obviously that's what gender is. If they could go one step further and separate it from bodies and pronouns (i.e. sex), they'd be GC.

They just want/ need a sandwich

Quite a good idea for an advert, isn't it?

You have a blue haired, young (but not young enough for it to be in any way excusable) person with the dry eyed, wired look of someone who spends 20 hours a day online, ranting to long suffering family members about what they're required to call him/her/they/ze/shithead and what they, as allies, owe them and how they're LITERALLY KILLING trans people by not obliging
And then a voiceover goes, "You're not you when you're hungry. Eat a Snickers! (And get your head out your arse!).
Person eats Snickers, apologises to their family. Then walks off to go for a walk, or read a book, or get a fucking job...

I resist linguistic structures that prioritize classification and stability over expression and fluidity.

I resist words that prioritise mutual understanding (aka communication) over vain incoherence.

Can't help but wonder how stumped these writers would be with that third of the world's population who have no pronouns? How can the pronoun brigade be special then?

Bloody hell! Look - even if you try really hard to learn the pronouns, you’re still literally killing people and should go away and keep your dreadful failings private so they don’t upset these petty little dictators.

See the replies to this tweet:

twitter.com/lovelyspirit33/status/1434502986038796295?s=21

I swear I’ve never seen such utter arrogance. It’s getting worse and worse.

@BreatheAndFocus

Bloody hell! Look - even if you try really hard to learn the pronouns, you’re still literally killing people and should go away and keep your dreadful failings private so they don’t upset these petty little dictators.

See the replies to this tweet:

twitter.com/lovelyspirit33/status/1434502986038796295?s=21

I swear I’ve never seen such utter arrogance. It’s getting worse and worse.

These Twitter comments - surely they’re parody?? I certainly hope so because I just can’t believe that anyone could be so abhorrently precious about themselves.

@BreatheAndFocus

Bloody hell! Look - even if you try really hard to learn the pronouns, you’re still literally killing people and should go away and keep your dreadful failings private so they don’t upset these petty little dictators.

See the replies to this tweet:

twitter.com/lovelyspirit33/status/1434502986038796295?s=21

I swear I’ve never seen such utter arrogance. It’s getting worse and worse.

Make it stop! Make it stop! Make it stop! Please.Make.It.Stop!!!!!!!!

Yawn. Can we just substitute self-centred bore and have done.

@BreatheAndFocus

Bloody hell! Look - even if you try really hard to learn the pronouns, you’re still literally killing people and should go away and keep your dreadful failings private so they don’t upset these petty little dictators.

See the replies to this tweet:

twitter.com/lovelyspirit33/status/1434502986038796295?s=21

I swear I’ve never seen such utter arrogance. It’s getting worse and worse.

Wowzers.

I find it quite offensive actually, the way that these people are so desperate to be oppressed. If the only way in which you are oppressed is that people don't always refer to you in the exact way that you would like when not talking directly to you, then you are not oppressed. The kind of language used in those tweets totally trivialises true oppression.

What's the expression again? Check your privilege....?

@BreatheAndFocus

Bloody hell! Look - even if you try really hard to learn the pronouns, you’re still literally killing people and should go away and keep your dreadful failings private so they don’t upset these petty little dictators.

See the replies to this tweet:

twitter.com/lovelyspirit33/status/1434502986038796295?s=21

I swear I’ve never seen such utter arrogance. It’s getting worse and worse.

It's amazing, isn't it?

"I'm non-binary and I use she/her pronouns AND they/them pronouns so please use both and not just she/her
thanks"

"Friendly reminder that if someone uses multiple pronoun sets, pls use all their pronouns unless they have specifically stated a preference among those pronoun sets or told u how and when to use specific pronouns for them."

"Added a spot for pronouns to our consent forms at the shop and cis people keep ignoring it. About to make their pronouns was/were."

I know realise that I have not been honouring my delicate intersections. Nor have I been recognising the multitudes within me (except perhaps when I was expecting the twins!).

Or could it just be, having pushed for people to respect their chosen pronouns and found that, by and large, people are happy to make the effort and lovingly comply, the challenge has to be made harder and harder until someone stumbles and victimhood can be claimed?

Perhaps one set of pronouns is too easy to learn and starts to become mundane, so having a range to choose from ensures the desired attention every day, as people are forced to check in with the pronouned one's menu?

Can you switch pronouns at lunchtime to catch people out? What happens if the person loses track of which set is current? How does any actual work get done if the whole workplace is playing pronoun tiptoe? What happens if a pronouned one gets another pronouned one's pronouns wrong? Do they play top victim trumps?

So much potential.

Sadly not parody, Francesca. I checked that account that was replying and it’s full of the most outrageous narcissism and comments about Cis People and Straight People (even though there’s a high probability the person is technically straight themselves 🙄 ). Some of these people are so over the top it’s unbelievable (did anyone see the male person with the They/Them earrings video?)

Or could it just be, having pushed for people to respect their chosen pronouns and found that, by and large, people are happy to make the effort and lovingly comply, the challenge has to be made harder and harder until someone stumbles and victimhood can be claimed?

It’s exactly that newlygranny They sit around in permanent victim mode, looking to be offended and rushing in to shout But what about ME? ME ME ME at every possible occasion. No-one has it harder than them 🙄