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Graham Linehan in the Times

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Igneococcus · 04/09/2021 07:38

I wish they'd put it in the main paper rather than the Scotland section:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8c85b4ba-0d01-11ec-9503-f24d9e0411ae?shareToken=e1879f56c612595d4281520d6ea0821c

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endofthelinefinally · 05/09/2021 21:35

Maybe they could be produced and royalties go to Graham. I would buy one. Grin

HowamIalmost50 · 05/09/2021 21:42

@Glinner Thank you for all your support in Scotland last week! Wish I had said hello at Holyrood! What's the story with the weirdo with the sign?

Graham Linehan in the Times
Graham Linehan in the Times
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Phobiaphobic · 05/09/2021 22:48

@Glinner

First of all, thank you so much for all the kind words. I remain honoured to be in this fight with so many of you.

I've seen a few things about the tone of Mike's piece. I am completely happy with it. All I've ever wanted is for someone to report my position accurately, which he did. Of course, there are a lot of gaps, but this is such a big story, I don't mind people not grasping it all at once.

@Glinner Fair enough. I'm really pleased you're pleased with it. Well done!
MaxNormal · 05/09/2021 22:59

I mostly lurk but just wanted to add a huge thank you.
I'll start watching Count Arthur Strong on Netflix tomorrow.

ArabellaScott · 05/09/2021 23:25

Bit late to the party, but wanted to wish you all the very best, Glinner, and thank you for all that you've done for women. It won't be forgotten.

I think the Times piece is a significant turn.

NiceGerbil · 05/09/2021 23:47

Thank you glinner!

I'm surprised there haven't been any posts off to chastise for 'fawning' over a man. Strange.

The fact is that men get listened to way more than women.

Anyway thank you again glinner :)

RestlessMillennial · 06/09/2021 01:27

You're the best Graham!

ThisIsJeopardy · 06/09/2021 02:27

Thank you Glinner! Flowers. For years now I have been moved and inspired by the steadfastness of your commitment to champion fairness, safety, and privacy for women and girls. I wish I could give you a hug and buy you a pint, but I am grateful that your presence here on MN at least offers the chance to say: go raibh míle, míle maith agat, you star you. Star

ChattyLion · 06/09/2021 04:28

Thank you so much again for just keeping going Glinner and for using your voice so consistently and eloquently. And for highlighting women’s reality and women’s campaigning work alongside your own.

It’s absolutely horrible that so many people will look the other way or just literally not give a shit (or be creepily excited) when the collateral damage to women and children is pointed out to them. The house IS on fire and 51% of the population and our kids have been metaphorically thrown in it with explicit approval of this at the very highest levels.

I thought the Times’ interviewer’s tone was ridiculous, trying to have this both ways but Glinner’s truth telling and reasonableness always shines through. It makes the interviewer’s attempts to paint Glinner as in some way as having an extreme position look very strange: eg this extract:

‘[Glinner] was dubbed “the most hated man on the internet” before his exclusion from Twitter. The final straw for moderators arrived when he trolled the Women’s Institute, who had wished their transgender members a happy Pride by tweeting: “Men aren’t women, tho”. He was barred for “hateful conduct”.’

Nothing done wrong there ^
It’s not ‘trolling’ for anyone to make a statement of biological fact. That’s the whole point.
And that the WOMEN’S institute needs a reminder about what biological sex is… you couldn’t make it up.

That male journalist carping that Glinner’s brought up things that are ‘dark’ is pretty embarrassing.
As a male Times journalist, none of this political reality endangers or silences him though, does it? It’s women and children who are being put at massive risk and being undermined and silenced on this one. And when they complain of the reality of what’s happening, in vast numbers they (or staunch campaigners like Glinner) are ignored or harassed and threatened or criticised that their views are too mean, too unpalatable, too upsetting or somehow too ‘dark’?

Solidarity with women and children in Scotland. Flowers

buckeejit · 06/09/2021 14:24

@Glinner adding my thanks & admiration. You're a true hero & I'm sorry for what you've suffered through this. The whole situation is nuts. Thanks for all the good telly too. Keep 'er lit on all accounts & look after yourself

Klinkerbell · 06/09/2021 16:20

Not from the UK, my country is already in the toilet. I wept when I read this article because in todays society women and girls do not matter, and to see this one decent man standing against this onslaught of hate overwhelmed me, and at such a cost to himself. Most days I despair and worry for the brave women who stand up. The bravery of those in the UK gives me hope. Thank you Graham!Flowers

NecessaryScene · 06/09/2021 16:37

Graham's appearance on Andrew Doyle's Free Speech Nation podcast from GB News went up yesterday.

It was a good interview. And Andrew's knowledgeable enough on the topic to be able to fill in the background when Graham gets ahead of himself, and to keep him on track. Grin

Abhannmor · 06/09/2021 16:52

@endofthelinefinally So sorry for your loss Flowers

megabass · 06/09/2021 19:34

I don't post here often but I read everything Glinner writes and always see the Mess. He is an outstanding hero; my admiration really knows no bounds. How about we have a big MN group outing to the first night of Father Ted the Musical - when it finally arrives? I'm assuming it will be London.

I'm happy to collect emails via PM and will arrange the time comes. If there's lots of us it would be great and we could give the Father a standing ovation at the end...??? And meet each other. And have a night out.

megabass · 06/09/2021 19:35

*when the time comes, obviously

keeptalkinghappytalk · 06/09/2021 20:49

Glinner, you're a Mensch !

Mysterian · 06/09/2021 21:18

@Glinner

Count Arthur did so poorly when it was on the BBC that I'm still paying off the advance for writing it and don't get any money from Netflix. So spreading the word that it's on there would be hugely appreciated!
As an aspiring comedy writer it's great to know that if I ever get several series of a show on BBC1, I'm still going to be broke. Great. Grin
Belleager · 06/09/2021 22:05

@megabass

I don't post here often but I read everything Glinner writes and always see the Mess. He is an outstanding hero; my admiration really knows no bounds. How about we have a big MN group outing to the first night of Father Ted the Musical - when it finally arrives? I'm assuming it will be London.

I'm happy to collect emails via PM and will arrange the time comes. If there's lots of us it would be great and we could give the Father a standing ovation at the end...??? And meet each other. And have a night out.

Great plan - thanks @megabass
colouringindoors · 06/09/2021 22:37

@megabass count me in!

buckeejit · 06/09/2021 22:46

@megabass love that idea. I'm so in. Any other Norn iron contingents, let me know Smile

TheHouseIsOnFire · 06/09/2021 22:47

Count me in! Name change in honour of this thread 🔥

JoodyBlue · 06/09/2021 23:00

@Glinner, as others have said, you are a hero for standing with and for women, children, and trans people. Thank you. For me you will always be standing on that pedalstool :) Flowers Wine

Rhannion · 07/09/2021 00:25

@orangejuicer

Would re watching IT crowd and Father Ted help in any way? Ratings etc?
Subscribe to his sub stack, watch The Mess We’re In and watch Father Ted ! Graham is a lovely man who takes time to talk and is smiling in spite of the vile abuse he has had.
Rhannion · 07/09/2021 00:28

@megabass

I don't post here often but I read everything Glinner writes and always see the Mess. He is an outstanding hero; my admiration really knows no bounds. How about we have a big MN group outing to the first night of Father Ted the Musical - when it finally arrives? I'm assuming it will be London.

I'm happy to collect emails via PM and will arrange the time comes. If there's lots of us it would be great and we could give the Father a standing ovation at the end...??? And meet each other. And have a night out.

Brilliant idea, I’m in.