Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt

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LibDem activist delighted by this. Here are two of her tweets. The gay man who turned up in an LGB hat and t-shirt was allegedly advised by police to leave for his own safety and seems to have had the hat stolen.

Another young fool tweeted that 'bullying the guy in the LGB Alliance shirt who came to the protest march is my favourit part of Pride so far xx'. He has since deleted this (possibly because he is now sober and/or has seen how many people had reported this to his employers) and now claims he was just chanting 'Trans lives matter!'. 'Bullying' is an odd choice of words for this. How could anyone think admitting publicly to 'bullying' was a good look?

The LGB Alliance man has been advised that people shouting at him is actually assault if he wants to take it further. Doesn't sound like he does, though.

Unedifying, to say the least.

Maybe andrelax, amongst your deflections, you could answer some questions about your assertions. Otherwise, you have joined the ranks of those posters who come and make empty assertions to shame others who don’t agree with you.

So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

What we're saying is don't bully, harass and torment gay people for being same sex attracted. It's really quite simple. Clearly pride isn't very inclusive towards gay people is it. Apart from as support aids.

Newsflash: Homosexuality is not inclusive.

No sexuality is inclusive. By its very nature, sexuality excludes. Lesbians and gay men are under no obligation whatsoever to include transactivists and their demands in our organizations or lives.

So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

That's one hell of a reach you've made there.

How inclusive is it for gay men and lesbians to have their same sex attraction denied and to be attacked for being same sex attracted? Are you condoning this?

You've got lots of organizations you can go to for support.

Yes. I doubt their child will be sitting alone in a corner. There's a huge amount of trans support.

@andrelax

I'm struggling to respond as I presume there is a real person behind this, but the LGB are not there for the sole purpose of supporting the T. It is not for them to validate your child and they have a right to look to a group to support just their needs. The T has plenty of sole focused groups, the LGB just want one too.

AfternoonToffee Why do so many of these comments assume my daughter and I aren't real? So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

We are people behind a screen, anyone can be anyone they say there are. I have no more proof that you are genuine then I do for any other poster.

However I come from the angle that you are posting in good faith and I will therefore respond as such rather than just being completely dismissive.

And no I didn't tell anyone to stand in a corner, people can stand together, doesn't mean they need to be a hive mind.

This clip has a presumably Christian minister, given the dog collar, saying that homosexuality doesn't exist because Trans, and doing so in approving tones. The new homophobia is the old homophobia with a trans flag dog collar.

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Everyone assuming we are raging homophobes is seriously demented. I'm bowing out of here now as this is truly horrible

Well that didn't take long did it. Much better to stay and engage with the issues.

I have a question for you. If a transwomen identifies as a lesbian, do you think lesbians are transphobic for rejecting them as a sexual partner?

Everyone assuming we are raging homophobes is seriously demented

So prove you are not, because what is happening to same sex attracted men and women under the auspices of Trans Rights is homophobic.

I'm bowing out of here now as this is truly horrible

What's truly horrible is a gay man being attacked at a Pride event for the clothes he was wearing and the mere fact that he is signalling he is same sex attracted and people are condoning and celebrating this attack.

If you cannot see how utterly horrendous and homophobic that is then that is seriously demented (to use your own words).

So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

There are numerous groups that exclusively support trans issues only. Why can your child not get the support they need from these groups that have the specialist knowledge to help?

seriously demented

Nice.

So.. not able to quote hateful posts

Just pissed off because many here disagree so bloody eloquently.

Bank Holiday whataboutery, same as any other day!

I'm bowing out of here now as this is truly horrible.

Yes it's horrible having to answer difficult questions honestly, isn't it? Cheerio!

I'm fully expecting to have some of my posts deleted here, tbh. Not because they've broken any guidelines, but I do think it's likely that some mod will decide a lesbian rejecting emotional manipulation is 'not in the spirit'. Because that's how little faith I have in the decency of TRAs.

So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

I think we all need support from a large community of people who may or may not share our beliefs and political views, but who do respect our rights and boundaries.

The ‘rainbow family’ is not a real family. Your child needs support from real people, not a hashtag.

andrelax your kid is fine. It was another parent's beautiful, special, brave kid that the mob turned on.

@FloralBunting

I'm fully expecting to have some of my posts deleted here, tbh. Not because they've broken any guidelines, but I do think it's likely that some mod will decide a lesbian rejecting emotional manipulation is 'not in the spirit'. Because that's how little faith I have in the decency of TRAs.

Well of course. Hurty feelings on behalf of trans trumps homophobia every time.

Everyone assuming we are raging homophobes is seriously demented.

I think I would avoid using this language, for example.

Maybe the concerned parent could identify as Graysexual or something and they could be a little rainbow family all their own or something. Why is it up to me?

@Artichokeleaves

andrelax your kid is fine. It was another parent's beautiful, special, brave kid that the mob turned on.

Yep