Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt

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LibDem activist delighted by this. Here are two of her tweets. The gay man who turned up in an LGB hat and t-shirt was allegedly advised by police to leave for his own safety and seems to have had the hat stolen.

Another young fool tweeted that 'bullying the guy in the LGB Alliance shirt who came to the protest march is my favourit part of Pride so far xx'. He has since deleted this (possibly because he is now sober and/or has seen how many people had reported this to his employers) and now claims he was just chanting 'Trans lives matter!'. 'Bullying' is an odd choice of words for this. How could anyone think admitting publicly to 'bullying' was a good look?

The LGB Alliance man has been advised that people shouting at him is actually assault if he wants to take it further. Doesn't sound like he does, though.

Unedifying, to say the least.

Just for once it would be nice if someone alleging that we hate trans people would give us examples and explain why each post is hateful. All we usually get is the statement that we are hateful, followed by further vague allegations and a flounce.

Hatred for Trans people runs through so many of the comments and that's what prompted my post. If you can't see that things are worse than I thought

Does it? Please do point out the hateful posts. I'm always happy to consider and re-evaluate. ☺️

@andrelax

I have read the thread. It's not a stock template. I was talking from the heart. Hatred for Trans people runs through so many of the comments and that's what prompted my post. If you can't see that things are worse than I thought.

Do you support those who assaulted a gay man for stating his sexual boundaries?

Or are you calling those who condemn this type of violent behavior as toxic?

All we usually get is the statement that we are hateful, followed by further vague allegations and a flounce.

Yes. Maybe this time it will be different. I do like reasoned debate and discussion...

@andrelax

Wow what a toxic, depressing thread this is. I have a beautiful Trans daughter who is gradually, tentatively trying to be brave enough to emerge from her internal prison, which she has been trapped in for years. There are so many hurdles, so much misinformation, and so much hatred. The LGBT community is essential for people like her to feel part of a supportive network. She is also bisexual. Why do you want to exclude her from the rainbow family? My heart breaks for her when reading these responses.

Please don't.

Your lack of understanding is what will harm your child. Holding tight to misinformation and lies will harm her more than any GC person pointing out that a man should be able to support the LGB community without it being seen as hateful.

Labelling support for the gay community as hateful does far more damage, is far more divisive and will decimate the community your child relies on.

Those hurdles include blindly accepting TRA mantras. Be kinder to your child.

@andrelax

I have read the thread. It's not a stock template. I was talking from the heart. Hatred for Trans people runs through so many of the comments and that's what prompted my post. If you can't see that things are worse than I thought.

Quote just one of them. If there are 'so many' that should be nice and easy for you...

So let's see those hateful posts then @andrelax.

Nice twist. Not sure your interpretation holds water though.

@RedDogsBeg

So let's see those hateful posts then *@andrelax*.

Well, there were those posts saying he deserved it for wearing a t-shirt.

Sounds entirely reasonable to me. After all, only an unreasonable person would expect a gay person to change their sexuality to same gender, rather than same sex attracted, in order to support trans people identities. Would you not agree?

TRAs physically assaulting gay man at Pride event = justifiable protest
Wearing a t-shirt = hate and literal violence

Labelling support for the gay community as hateful does far more damage, is far more divisive and will decimate the community your child relies on.

Maybe PP would like to listen to Andrew Doyle interview a young gay man and a young lesbian about THEIR community (including Doyle’s). I am very concerned about the teenagers and young LGB people today who are facing ‘toxicity’ from within their community at their choice to define their sexual boundaries.

Maybe PP will listen to detransitioners who have spoken up in support of LGB Alliance for representing them after they were ‘shunned’.

Even rainbow families seem to have people with different needs and opinions. Why do people think it ever was or should be one same thinking group.

Well, there were those posts saying he deserved it for wearing a t-shirt.

I'd bet my house that those are not the ones andrelax finds hateful Bordois.

Little OJ supporting gay bashing over on his twitter thread

The LGBT community is essential for people like her to feel part of a supportive network

I'm struggling to respond as I presume there is a real person behind this, but the LGB are not there for the sole purpose of supporting the T. It is not for them to validate your child and they have a right to look to a group to support just their needs. The T has plenty of sole focused groups, the LGB just want one too.

Assuming that lesbian and gay men should parent your child for you is pretty entitled, dear. You'll get no cossetting from me when you come on a thread about open homophobia and whine about how you want your confused child to be supported by the lesbians and gay men who are currently being verbally and physically abused for not focusing all their attention on trans demands.

I am in no mood to play nice with sad face parents who support homophobic bullying today.

And for the record, I had a child identify as trans myself for a number of years. It was hard work.

I would have been an entitled wanker if I'd have rocked up to a group of lesbians and gay men and demanded they support my daughter's disturbed thoughts that she needed medication and a binder to squash her developing breasts, and that if they didn't campaign to force that to be a legal entitlement and shut up about being homosexual they should be shunned and abused.

The LGBT community is essential for people like her to feel part of a supportive network

My daughter is a lesbian. What do you think her role in the LGBT should be? Does she have a right to be same sex (not gender) attracted? Or will she be a support aid for other people's identities? If she wears an LGBA t shirt, an organisation that supports same sex attraction (which pride /stonewall do not) will she be safe at pride? Or will she be tormented, threatened and chased out by 'her rainbow family'?

@aliasundercover

Little OJ supporting gay bashing over on his twitter thread

2016: LOJ, quite rightly as all decent people would, condemns utterly the attack on a Gay Club in America.

2021: LOJ supports an attack on a gay man at Pride in Manchester because of the clothes he was wearing.

How times change.

And while I'm venting, I'll reiterate, homosexual people are not props to give credibility to an acronym. We have no responsibility to support everyone who decides they have a special identity letter covered by the TQ+

I'm struggling to respond as I presume there is a real person behind this, but the LGB are not there for the sole purpose of supporting the T. It is not for them to validate your child and they have a right to look to a group to support just their needs. The T has plenty of sole focused groups, the LGB just want one too.

AfternoonToffee Why do so many of these comments assume my daughter and I aren't real? So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

You've got lots of organizations you can go to for support.

This is about the one organization that is nothing to do with your child's trans identity, and the lesbians and gay men being abused for focusing on the specific issues they have which are nothing to do with trans anything.