A Green Party leader to 'welcome politically homeless women'

[GreenGretel]

A candidate in the Green Party election contest wants to welcome back women who have been left politically homeless by the assault on sex-based rights.

I'd urge any Green-minded people to join or re-join the party by 27th Aug in order to vote for Shahrar Ali. You can join (if only temporarily) for as little as £13 here: join.greenparty.org.uk/

Shahrar Ali stands a good chance of winning, having previously been deputy leader and gaining 24% of first-preference votes in 2020. He is speaking up unequivocally for women's sex-based rights. You can read his full statement on Facebook here: www.facebook.com/ShahrarAliGreenParty/posts/190051301345352.

He is also in the Guardian here: www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/aug/17/green-transgender-rights-row-leadership-shahrar-ali-sian-berry

If Shahrar wins, he will be the first leader of a British political party willing to stand up to gender identity ideology.

[quote LangClegsInSpace]I don't know how much of a problem antisemitism is within the greens.

A lot of the discussion in the hustings was about whether to adopt the IHRA working definition -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Definition_of_Antisemitism[/quote]
There are a fair number of people who believe that any doubts about that definition is proof of antisemitism.

For those that brave the toxic platform that is Twitter, #hurrahforShahrar is the hashtag of choice.

Thanks for the clarification Lang!

Just joined.

I am a swing voter. Your average of averages. So far have never voted against the majority and so far never had a wrong prediction about the results of an election.

If the general public were voting I can assure you SA would win. I would bet my house on it.

Problem is I would hazard a guess that the current green party membership is not an equal cross section of society, and therefore not reflective of the overwhelming majority view on this topic.

So we will see. This may break my winning streak

Just watched the Hustings

Yep the General Public would definitely vote SA in to be leader, but would never vote him to be PM - he wants to bring carbon quotas for each person and when we use them thats it - great in theory, but in principle thats either living in a surveillance state requiring permissions to do anything, or its an after the fact fine which will only affect the lower and middle classes.

The rest are all barmy for other varying reasons.

Very scary slips of language here and there. People need 'to be told', 'educated', 'explained why this is not in your best interests etc'.

Its a shame, unless someone gets there act together seriously then we will be stuck back with the Torys again. And that too I would bet my house on.

The anti semitism thing is a real worry.

I am coming to realise that it's something that many don't really see as a big deal. A bit like the stuff around women I suppose.

My area has a large Jewish population and antipathy towards Jewish people is real and serious.

Whether the greens have any Semitic members or not I don't know. After the labour shitshow I wouldn't be surprised.

Anyway that's an aside. I wouldn't join for the reasons I gave earlier.

What's happened to wep? They remembered what a woman is yet?!

Bump that tomorrow is the deadline to join

There is half an hour left for anyone who wants to join the green party in time to vote in the leadership elections.

Just snuck in there! Thanks!

I doubt the Greens will ever make it as a political party as they are in (say) Germany, but they work as a political pressure group/junior partner.

At this stage, just getting someone in who will focus on the science and push forward thought out policies works for me. Anyone on the TWAW handcart clearly does not do critical thinking or unpopular politics.

We need a lot of both, moving forward.

I've left the Labour party because of their stance on women's rights/gender ideology and have been feeling politically homeless for the first time ever.
Joined the Greens last week in order to vote for Shahrar Ali.
I saw something shared, I think on Twitter, a link to an article about how to use all of your voting preferences strategically in order to favour Ali/women's rights. I can't find it now. Does anyone have the link or can advise on who else to give the lower preferences to?

If you get in touch with Green Feminists

[email protected]

I think they might have some ideas Dappled.

Voting recommendations just received from [email protected]

These are our voting recommendations. Explanatory notes follow.

To vote ONLY for candidates who will defend sex-based rights:

1. Shahrar Ali
2. Martin Hemingway and Tina Rothery
3. RON (Re-Open Nominations)

To vote to defend women's sex-based rights AND have a say in any run-off between other candidates

1. Shahrar Ali
2. Martin Hemingway and Tina Rothery
3. Ashley Gunstock
4. Carla Denyer and Adrian Ramsay
5. RON (Re-Open Nominations)

Our analysis of the election
This election uses Single Transferable Vote in which you are asked to rank each candidate/s in order of preference. The counting of the votes involves several rounds. After each round the lowest-scoring candidate/s is eliminated and their voters' preferences re-distributed to the remaining candidates until only one, the winner, remains. We have offered two voting suggestions: the first prioritising only those candidates who we believe will defend women's existing legal sex-based rights; the second allows you a say between other candidates if your top preferences were to get knocked out in earlier rounds.

Please note, you DO NOT have to cast all six votes and Re-Open Nominations can be used if you don't like any other candidates.

Our suggestions address only the question of whether the candidates' recent actions and words indicate an understanding of the importance of sex in the life chances of women and girls - and of the implications if 'sex' is replaced in all situations by a concept of 'gender identity', as some propose. You should weigh this with your other priorities.

Getting your vote
Voting in Green Party leadership election opens 10am Thursday 2nd Sept and closes 10pm on 23rd September. You will receive an email from the Green Party on Thursday 2nd September with a unique code and link to the online ballot. If you don't receive a voting link, contact [email protected] to obtain a voting code.

Brilliant! Thanks @GreenGretel and @OhHolyJesus.

What has gone on here, anyone know what the tweet was that Sian Berry deleted?

twitter.com/sianberry/status/1433322222781882370?s=21

I've cast my vote. Thanks @GreenGretel

Thanks @GreenGretel. Just voted.

[quote OhHolyJesus]What has gone on here, anyone know what the tweet was that Sian Berry deleted?

twitter.com/sianberry/status/1433322222781882370?s=21[/quote]
Didn't she make recommendations on who to vote for in the leadership race - using her current capacity as leader to advise? After her 2 favourites she said not to vote for anybody else.

I think the ppl besides the scenes who understand politics and rules told her this was against party policy, and asked her to delete those tweets. She then reposted the same tweets under her own name without the GP colours.

Reminds me of when my kid and her friends were running for Year 6 captains hips and offered the Grade 1 sweets

Thank you @GreenGretel for the reminder and the explanatory notes - I've just voted.

Oh thanks for the explanation Mid - she really hasn't a clue has she? Just as well she is leaving. It's very 'playground politics' and the cause deserves a grown up.

I have voted for Shahrar Ali for that reason.

fb.watch/7QX8m8mg9N/

Voted. Fingers crossed!

"So I talk about intersexual feminism...." (2:50)

fb.watch/7QX8m8mg9N/

I've still not got my voting code

@Carriemac

I've still not got my voting code

Have you emailed them to say? (I think the address is somewhere on this thread)

@Carriemac

I've still not got my voting code

Mine had gone into my junk mail, it was only seeing this thread that prompted me to check.