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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

For any Puregym regulars....

248 replies

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 23/07/2021 13:20

They've stated on Twitter that their communal changing rooms are NOT single-sex and that any woman who wants to be sure of not changing with men should use the gender-neutral toilets. So that's nice.

Thread here: twitter.com/Albawitch_xx/status/1418506009815945216?s=20

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GreyhoundG1rl · 23/07/2021 19:17

@NiceGerbil

I wonder if PureGym will have s big upsurge in New joiners who ticked woman...
Imagine their dismay when all the women have voted with their feet and gone elsewhere; and they're left in the ladies all by themselves? The USP will have completely disappeared.
Winecurestiredness · 23/07/2021 19:19

Oh dear didn't realise that. At my Gym I haven't ever seen anyone other than 'female' to the naked eye come into the female changing rooms...but then I don't shower there I shower at home

NiceGerbil · 23/07/2021 19:23

It's probably not that well known but as word spreads about the possibility and where you can do it I'm sure it will bring more customers to those orgs...

crumpet · 23/07/2021 19:26

Fitness first have stated that their changing rooms are single sex

NiceGerbil · 23/07/2021 19:27

But how are they defining single sex...

You never know these days.

Outbutnotoutout · 23/07/2021 19:31

I think every women should go into the gym on the proviso of joining ask about the changing rooms and then state they won't be joining because of the unisex

Puddycatfan · 23/07/2021 19:35

The Anytime Fitness I use has individual changing rooms ie toilet, sink, and shower which lock. I go at odd times so it is perfect for me. I feel very safe. Just in case people are looking for an alternative gym.

However, this doesn't alter the fact that where there are more 'open changing rooms they should be single SEX. Anything else is, quite frankly, dangerous for women and a free pass for dangerous men

PronounssheRa · 23/07/2021 19:45

Women: suck it up or change in a loo, while punishing disabled people at the same time. You pay membership fees for the privilege of being the second class citizens to our priority clientele

This is it. Its Batshit crazy and so blatantly obvious.

Winecurestiredness · 23/07/2021 20:09

Have to mention though...I am young, 29, I have been told I look about 18 at best. So I think people don't assume I'm a mum and think I'm some young college girl wanting attention. There are lads around 18-25 there who stare at the young women as they work out. Sometimes I can feel eyes on me. I don't know why it's just that super uneasy feeling. As a mother this doesn't flatter me at all it literally sends shivers down my spine as I'm happily married and wear my wedding rings to the gym! Even some of the 'self employed' PTs who are young lads seem to 'hang out' on an unused machine, chat, and can see them looking and laughing a bit...

JonBinary · 23/07/2021 20:59

So men are allowed the pin to the women's changing rooms in a largely unstaffed gym. That's appalling. I will spread the word, some of my friends use that gym. Clearly PureGym do not give a shit about women's safety.

JonBinary · 23/07/2021 21:03

@crumpet

Fitness first have stated that their changing rooms are single sex
They often say single sex, but it depends how they are defining that.
KittenKong · 23/07/2021 21:07

They may was well say ‘the rooms are all kaifrnws flugelhorn wofianex’ for all its worth...

BaronMunchausen · 23/07/2021 22:12

"However it’s best to upset 1% of the population than it is to upset 51% surly."

1% is Stonewall's hyper-inflated guess.

Doesn't work so well for them though if it's used to assess relative murder rates (trans rate works out significantly lower than average).

TaleOfTheContinents · 23/07/2021 22:21

Interesting to see this as I belong to PureGym and there was a young (possibly teen) man/boy in the women's changing rooms a few weeks ago - he looked and dressed like a man/boy so there was every possibility that he wasn't transgender and just did it on a whim.

It felt very, very uncomfortable - I didn't like that any teenage boy could just decide he fancied being in the women's changing room.

littlbrowndog · 23/07/2021 22:26

What a creep tale

Them men that do this are just creepy fuckers

UltimateCheekbones · 23/07/2021 23:09

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NiceGerbil · 23/07/2021 23:12

The other thing here is that we're told over and over this is for safety (even though breaking down the male/female divide means less safety all round).

In these gyms if you go when staffed, how much risk is there for a (possibly GNC) male in the men's?

And before the response well if it's safe in that situation then what are you fussing about...

Dodgy men have a range of things they do that intimidate etc that stay just the right side of legal
A male who if they strip naked / and then just take their time / maybe having a general peruse of the area is just a no.
Having a male walk in while you're undressed is a no.
Obviously some women will feel unable to use that gym.
Ok we can use the bog. Awesome! So you're down to your knickers and a male person comes in.. you what. Scamper out with your hands over your boobs like in a carry on film? Get dressed and go? The thing has happened though.

So they want all women who don't want to change with a male, to use the toilet always? Before and after exercising? Never use the shower?
What about people with disabilities?

I mean. What???

NiceGerbil · 23/07/2021 23:21

Just poking about.

They allow membership from age 16.

They are getting a pasting on twitter but happily I can report that it's all a GC transphobic pile on with somehow trying to carry out ahoax like wispa.

Well that's fine then! Phew.

GreyhoundG1rl · 23/07/2021 23:22

Snowflakes, you say? 🤔.

GreyhoundG1rl · 23/07/2021 23:25

And you joined just to tell us that, aw!

Mallowmazing · 23/07/2021 23:28

It’s tempting to bite, but the idea that a man perving on women in changing rooms is ludicrous is just… ludicrous Grin

The Jetts gym I go to has large fully enclosed individual changing rooms with showers and toilet enclosed in each cubicle. They’re mixed sex because they are single occupancy and fully enclosed - so it’s no problem. Highly recommend.

NiceGerbil · 23/07/2021 23:28

Seen another tweet from pure gym in response to the original tweet about a male colleague seeing a male presenting male type person going into the women's changing:

'Hi, as advised if you have any concerns in club the gym manager would be more than happy to help. We do not tolerate this behaviour in our gyms and it would be investigated and handled appropriately.'

Ok now I'm baffled.

What behaviour????

They encourage members (ha!) to use the facilities they feel comfy in.

Soooo. There is no problem. Their stated approach is that this is fine.

So what 'behaviour' are they talking about?

Anyone got any ideas how their completely contradictory thinking is working here???

ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/07/2021 23:31

I've screenshot UltimateCheekbones's post & I'm reporting it.

The last time I saw such an unpleasant, aggressive post on here, it was on the trans widow thread & that post was swiftly removed by MN. Let's hope they deal simlarly with this one.

NiceGerbil · 23/07/2021 23:31

Oh I missed the post explaining why we're so wrong!

I'm happy to bite for any lurkers...

NiceGerbil · 23/07/2021 23:31

No please don't report it!!!