Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Guardian have upped their game, we’re now Anti-trans for asking for same-sex spaces

210 replies

AMCoffeePMWine · 18/07/2021 05:15

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/18/dozens-arrested-in-los-angeles-as-anti-trans-protest-outside-spa-turns-violent

“Women carrying signs reading “protect female spaces” and “It’s worse in women’s shelters”. Calls to defend “female spaces” and “women’s shelters” have become rallying cries of anti-trans groups, who have falsely suggested that trans-inclusive policies endanger cis women.”

This, according to the Guardian, is what makes women anti-trans. It’s infuriating. Using “Falsely” to describe women’s experiences of having biological males in female spaces.

All this from one woman saying No to willies waggling in front of women and girls.

OP posts:
hoodathunkit · 19/07/2021 10:29

You are very welcome EmbarrassingAdmissions

Some further videos of possible interest and definite relevance

Operation InfeKtion: How Russia Perfected the Art of War | NYT Opinion

Soviet Active Measures (1984)

Active Measures: The Kremlin Plan to Beat the West without Firing a Shot

Cailin66 · 19/07/2021 10:53

[quote MellieBellie]This story doesn't seem like it will go away anytime soon. There's so many competing narratives. Yesterday, Patricia Arquette tweeted an article from Slate about it being a hoax and in the replies there is a guy saying he witnessed the confrontation in reception. He's posted a video too.

twitter.com/bennetkelley/status/1416561456741421056?s=19[/quote]
Bennet Kelley also is an award winning political columnist, radio host, internet lawyer

twitter.com/bennetkelley

hoodathunkit · 19/07/2021 11:16

A brief section of the below video is important

Transgender, Gender & Psychoanalysis: Patricia Gherovici, Ph D

The YouTube channel hosting it and the associated websites and actors are fascinating for vrious reasons.

Re the above video, the presenter makes an interesting comment at 1:54 when she says that "the couch is like a window and at times we get to see things happening in society a little before we read about them in the news or we see them on TV"

This comment got me thinking.

I personally belive that various schools of psychotherapy, counselling and psychology have been infiltrated and are being used as forms of social enginering and active measures.

One of the principles of active measures, as defined in the excellent New York Times documentary, is that you hide your hand.

The examples given in the documentary included using newspapers in remote locations, with limited print runs, to break stories that then leak into the global news arena over time.

Obviously with the advent of the Internet the ability to hide one's hand and to spread fake news via social media is increased to a ridiculous degree.

I understand that, in war, opponents seek out obscure languages, including "orphan" languages for the purposes of sending and receiving secret, coded information, the Navajo code talkers being a well known example.

It also seems to me, having studied various schools of psychotherapy, including psychoanaysis, that psychoanalytic theories and narratives and other depth psychology theories are created and maintained by the use of opaque languages and obscure symbolic references, that even a highly intelligent lay person would be unable to understand.

The result of this is that it is impossible for anyone to critique such theories if they have no idea of the meaning of them.

I believe the same is true for some schools of philosophy, especially postmodernism.

My provisional hypothesis is that psychotherapy and the mental health professions generally are theatres in which social engineering via active measures are being implemented. They are effectively hidden hands, with many useful idiots thrown in for good measure.

Same with postmodern studies / queer theory, in fact this was brilliantly exposed by the Grievance Studies prank by helen Pluckrose et al.

I have some material to validate this hypothesis.

I have to go out soon but will post more thoughts later.

just another video from the same YouTube channel that readers may find interesting.

BaronMunchausen · 19/07/2021 11:32

Francis Harris (former editor and director of an Atlanticist think tank) has laid out a cogent critique of this ‘report’ . He refers to it as an Observer piece. Do we know whether this appeared in the Observer yesterday, or in the Guardian today?

Need to know which to write to.

BaronMunchausen · 19/07/2021 11:36

Sorry he corrected himself, it’s the Guardian.

Still wondering if it’s in the paper...may have to buy the rag.

BraveBananaBadge · 19/07/2021 11:47

Francis Harris's take was excellent. The piece was not fit for print.

NewlyGranny · 19/07/2021 12:27

Interesting that so many TRAs and allies are refusing to believe the incident even happened because nobody videoed it happening. But imagine the questions and furore if they had! Why did you have your phone in your hand in the jacuzzi? Why were you covertly filming a naked person? Why haven't you uploaded the video? How dare you upload that video?! What about the rights of the naked women in the background? Ad nauseam.

And as for "Safeguarding should be inclusive" give me strength. If we check women - and we do - why wouldn't we check transwomen? We check everybody! How's that for inclusive?

Yet in some countries, a person transitioning can have any record in their previous name closed. Now that is scary.

Blackandwhitehorse · 19/07/2021 15:21

Honestly (after reading Helen Joyce’s book) this is feeling more and more like an actual genuine conspiracy one that conspiracy theorists are missing. Or maybe I’ve lot the plot in the sun.

RoyalCorgi · 19/07/2021 15:46

Still wondering if it’s in the paper...may have to buy the rag.

I think it's almost certainly only going to be in the US section of the Guardian website. It seems to have a completely separate editorial team and I don't think the articles are subbed, or even seen, by the UK team.

It might still be worth writing to the readers' editor. Every time they publish something like this they diminish their own brand.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 19/07/2021 17:54

It's still on their website.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page