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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Janice Turner interviews Jess Philips in the Times

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 17/07/2021 09:44

Interesting read:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d8851824-e3c1-11eb-afdb-c7b01afbcfc5?shareToken=aab7b7c1ae6d3cef2a3097ebc6dfec5b

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She says her greatest achievement is “making women as important as bins”. Councils only had only two statutory duties: adult and children’s social services, and refuse collection. The Domestic Abuse Act adds a third: providing women’s refuges.

What surprised her when sitting on the women and equalities committee, which discussed Gender Recognition Act reforms, was the requirement of two years living “in role” as the opposite sex before changing a birth certificate. “How do you live in role as a man? Have I got to use a spanner? No one could answer that. I’ve got short hair. I’m wearing trousers. Like, it’s not an act, is it? You can’t act like a woman, because we’re all different.”

She is aghast that the modern left seeks to legitimise, even idealise, prostitution, which through her long experience in the refuge movement she sees as sexual abuse. She uses the term “prostituted women” rather than the woke euphemism “sex workers”. Moreover, she’s long been concerned about long-standing women’s refuges losing funds in favour of generic services that purport to include everyone. “If you had £1 million for domestic violence services, you’d give £800,000 to a women’s refuge based on need and numbers. Having specialist services for LGBT or male victims of domestic abuse is totally brilliant and legitimate. They’re not the same. They need different services.”

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Redapplewreath · 19/07/2021 17:10

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

Hayton has been asked, many times, on this forum alone, to say whether they now disagree with the guidelines they wrote

I was eventually more gratified than I should have been that Prof Wintermute had undergone a semi-damascene conversion on the omission of women's perspective from the Yogakarta Principles.

However - I could stand to learn a lot more about what he's actively doing to lobby his fellow signatories to undo this harm. (I know he's a trustee of LGB Alliance. I feel the damage from Yogakarta needs to be unpicked.)

I think the time is here to assemble a group of brilliant women - I nominate Datun and Reddogs and JKR and the Baroness and Joanna Cherry straight off the top of my head - send them to an exotic location with a good name to make it sound suitably impressive, and they can spend a few days coming up with principles for women's rights that can be handed down to international governments. Let's balance the books a bit.
TinselAngel · 19/07/2021 17:11

Sorry Tinsel what I meant was, as far as I know everything about APG has been a link. I personally am unaware of anyone with APG posting directly on here (I bloody well hope not).

Well there's at least 3 that post here under their own name for a start so I'm a bit flabbergasted you've never noticed.

TinselAngel · 19/07/2021 17:12

Sorry 4 actually- and two of them have gone on to write hit pieces on their websites about Trans Widows Voices.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 19/07/2021 17:55

@TinselAngel

Sorry 4 actually- and two of them have gone on to write hit pieces on their websites about Trans Widows Voices.
I bet they get nowhere near as many visits to their sites as Trans Widows Voices does.
TinselAngel · 19/07/2021 18:23

Well of course they don't Empress! Smile

Masdintle · 19/07/2021 18:52

Redapplewreath can I carry the bags for that jaunt Grin

TinselAngel · 20/07/2021 09:11

send them to an exotic location
Please can I go?

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