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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Obscene costumed volunteers handing out summer reading at Redbridge library

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WombOfOnesOwn · 11/07/2021 19:02

A library had a man in a rainbow monkey costume, with a dildo penis and a fake exposed butt, handing out summer reading books.

Look at this obscene sex clown mocking and terrorising local Muslim women:

twitter.com/HasAhmed_/status/1413931013340807172/photo/2

The library is, of course, apologizing about it now:

twitter.com/RedbridgeLibs/status/1413975910433366020

But during the event, they thought it was pretty funny:

twitter.com/turtillachip/status/1414255270038016009

What is happening? Why should parents going to the library's summer reading program worry that THIS is what they'll see? The website for this troupe of "performers" clearly shows this monkey performer with his fake penises inch from children's faces. There has been no vetting. No safeguarding.

And there'll just be an apology, another "isolated incident." Of course, the local Muslim women and girls know exactly what this library thinks of them now, and what may happen to them if they choose to even walk nearby. Do we think they're going to want to go in?

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FloralBunting · 11/07/2021 21:21

As a lesbian I'm increasingly worried about the backlash which, thanks to incidents like this, is going to affect me and all the other responsible citizens of the UK who happen to be LGB and want nothing to do with kink, trans and queer issues. There's already some evidence that homophobia is on the rise and incidents like this are bound to make it worse.

It's genuinely a frightening time to be LGB. Again.

chickenyhead · 11/07/2021 21:22

And all the fuss about women by sex breastfeeding (or chestfeeding if you prefer) in public.

But this is allowed?

I want to move to a different planet.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 11/07/2021 21:23

KimikosNightmare

Blueberry has a valid point. This is vile and unacceptable yet the second post on here is linking it to LGBT- as did subsequent posts.

I read it as a pre-emptive attempt to dissociate the carnival performers from being put under any umbrella. Perhaps clumsily phrased, but posters on here don't have subeditors to review their copy before they press send.

StealthPolarBear · 11/07/2021 21:24

Every couple of weeks there's a new article about an overly sexualised children's story time in a public library. As I say, using lgbtq to push societal norms. Forgive me for making this link. This does not mean I think this links back to the majority of lgbt population, who I suspect have also gone right off their cornflakes. It does mean I think there's an agenda here.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 11/07/2021 21:26

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Libraries are meant to be places where parents can allow their children to visit safely - and they're places where girls from some communities can have that extra freedom after school and in the holidays. Once they're seen as 'dangerous places' by some communities, then that's another bit of freedom lost to some children, especially girls.^

This.

Especially as a performer seems to have been outside harassing female passers-by with his plastic arse. Like they were trying to discourage as many people from going to the library as possible!

KimikosNightmare · 11/07/2021 21:30

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

KimikosNightmare

Blueberry has a valid point. This is vile and unacceptable yet the second post on here is linking it to LGBT- as did subsequent posts.

I read it as a pre-emptive attempt to dissociate the carnival performers from being put under any umbrella. Perhaps clumsily phrased, but posters on here don't have subeditors to review their copy before they press send.

It was very clumsily phrased;

(I'm quite sure plenty of LGBT parents would not be ok with this shit either)

(Why the need to even say that?)

as are several subsequent posts.

FemaleAndLearning · 11/07/2021 21:30

@Mumteedum

Anyone just exhausted by the onslaught of dangerous fucking stupidity and people falling for it? I'm quite sure plenty of LGBT parents would not be ok with this shit either.

I hate the drag queen shite in libraries too. Don't particularly love or hate drag... but how does it benefit children? Why do we have to push adult stuff at them? They have enough to deal with. Just totally sick of it.

I feel the same.i saw this and just felt sick. Sick and tired of this blatant abuse if our children.
Datun · 11/07/2021 21:30

BlueberryCheezecake

Datun
BlueberryCheezecake

Ffs, Go after the people doing this, Instead of berating the women on here for commenting on it. I am told constantly that drag is an expression of male homosexuality, and you have drag queen story time Across the land in libraries, with men calling themselves bustin Cherry, and flow job.

If people are making connections, go figure.

Because it would appear that the local council is making the exact same connections. Otherwise why would they hire men with their plastic cocks hanging out?


Yes, I do go figure, I think some masks have slipped in this post to be honest, clearly there's literally nothing you won't find a way to blame on trans people somehow, even when it has absolutely nothing to do with them. Bigotry and prejudice on open display, pure and simple.


That's hilarious. The only person you mentioned trans is you.

SingToTheSky · 11/07/2021 21:34

I’d love to know what the staff or volunteers would’ve done if someone walked in in normal clothes and started waving a dildo around. I’m guessing they wouldn’t have stood by and let that happen?!

I don’t understand why colourful fluffy costume makes this ok.

Peoniesandpeaches · 11/07/2021 21:34

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

KimikosNightmare

Blueberry has a valid point. This is vile and unacceptable yet the second post on here is linking it to LGBT- as did subsequent posts.

I read it as a pre-emptive attempt to dissociate the carnival performers from being put under any umbrella. Perhaps clumsily phrased, but posters on here don't have subeditors to review their copy before they press send.

Except instead of moving onto how disgusted they were at the inappropriateness of the costume people have been saying things like it’s to do with the “agenda” and it’s definitely to do with stonewall. Apparently the rainbow flag is harboring perverts according to others.
dyslek · 11/07/2021 21:34

@BlueberryCheezecake

There isn't even a rainbow. The monkey has a multicoloured costume. That's it.

Those of you going "No, but it is the LGBTs, it's definitely their fault somehow" are really not doing anything to dispell the impression that you've just made a kneejerk bigoted assumption.

On the council libary website its advertised as being for Pride month I believe. (Which is massively offensive to gay people).
dyslek · 11/07/2021 21:35

Any set of people who are set above critism will attract bad actors.

dyslek · 11/07/2021 21:37

Priests being the obvious example (saying that does not make me anti catholic btw)

ArchbishopOfBanterbury · 11/07/2021 21:39

This is totally inappropriate. Pedophilia is not kink. It's not LGBT. Whatever the orientation of the performers, however they identify, sexual display in front of kids isn't acceptable, especially not in the guise of "education".

WombOfOnesOwn · 11/07/2021 21:41

Nothing to do with LGBT?

twitter.com/hashtag/ProudInterventions?src=hashtag_click

Check out the hashtag for this troupe, "Proud Interventions." Nothing to do with...come on, what a load of claptrap.

So now that it IS something to do with, is it a problem, or is it just fine?

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WombOfOnesOwn · 11/07/2021 21:43

twitter.com/Mandinga_Arts1/status/1365662051369115655

The group now calls itself "Mandinga Arts" (look up what "mandingo" porn is if you want to know what this is about), but it was previously a specifically "Pride"-invoking group name and explicitly LGBT. They even use the same costumes!

Now they are trying to use the cover of being just some Carnival-inspired group, whatever makes it easier to get close to children without proper safeguarding, I suppose.

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Tibtom · 11/07/2021 21:44

Peoniesandpeaches are you denying any link with drag queen story time - which definitely does have LGBTQ+ links? That providing a platform for one set of 'adult entertainers' to perform inappropriately in front of kids does not in anyway make it easier/encourage/normalise another set? I definitely do call a link between this and pride/TRA and the QWERTY 'progressives'.

WombOfOnesOwn · 11/07/2021 21:44

This troupe, under its previous name Proud Interventions, performed for multiple years at Brighton Pride, but they're "not LGBT-affiliated," this has nothing to do with it, anyone who even possibly thinks there's a linkage is simply prejudiced and seeing their bias everywhere.

Gaslighters.

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 11/07/2021 21:45

Perhaps because she's absolutely terrified for people under the LGBT umbrella she knows and loves? I know I am.

I read outside my own accepting LGB-ally echo-chamber, and it is apparent that people are seeing men's inappropriate sexual behaviour being excused as "LGBT", and reaching certain horrific conclusions.

I am seeing homophobic comments below the line in reply to newspaper articles, the like of which I had not seen since the late 90s/turn of the millennium. People are neginning to conflate LGB with paedophilia, all over again, and we are going to have to address this.

Peoniesandpeaches · 11/07/2021 21:47

Dyslek No it really wasn’t it was a partnership with WWF and advertised as a special nature themed reading challenge.

Clymene · 11/07/2021 21:47

I can see at least two dildos on the monkeys here. How charming Hmm

HerewardTheWoke · 11/07/2021 21:49

This is about grooming organisations, as much as children

It's about breaking down the ability of institutions across society to recognise and challenge boundary-breaking behaviour and consequently to safeguard children now and in the future

The fact that these people weren't immediately thrown out of the library shows just how much that institutional and societal capacity has been eroded. DQST has to be part of that story. It's hard to see how you get from libraries as they were even 10 years ago, to this, without things like DQST and kink at Pride warping people's sense of what is appropriate around children

I would guess the staff don't have the same kind of safeguarding training/obligations as teachers, so libraries probably represent a weak spot in safeguarding, and they are predictably being targeted

WombOfOnesOwn · 11/07/2021 21:50

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StealthPolarBear · 11/07/2021 21:51

I am not at all conflating lgbt people with these idiots, no. The vast majority of lgbt people I suspect react as I would. However there is a movement hidden by the lgbt banner to push boundaries and abuse children. We're watching it happen. In ten years time there will be an enquiry and lessons will be learnt.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/07/2021 21:51

@WombOfOnesOwn
Can I just ask did you start this thread in S&G debate?

I started a thread a few days ago asking MN why safeguarding threads were being relegated here. This is a safeguarding thread so just wondering. Thanks.

And YANBU this is awful.