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Etorih · 10/07/2021 09:07

By "pre-op trans women" in plain English you mean males? Men?

Yes. That's exactly what they mean. Just using carefully chosen words in order to hide the truth. But pre op transwomen are males with a cock and balls. It accounts for the majority of males who identify as women.

Datun · 10/07/2021 09:08

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Ye gods what did I just read?

Happily, yet again, the sensible posters here haven't reported any of it, so all that twisting and turning remains for everyone to see.

For quite other reasons, it's difficult to read. It's like watching hooked fish flap on the quayside.

ScreamingMeMe · 10/07/2021 09:10

Nice sleight of hand calling those right wong men " GC". GC, as you well know, is short for "gender critical feminist/feminism".

I see what you're trying to do here, and it stinks to high heaven.

Desperate.

Congressdingo · 10/07/2021 09:13

@Steph751

Fresh - People were stabbed, that's without dispute. Far right morons turned up as a result widespread GC rhetoric. Trans people have had to own the prison service mistake with regards to KW. These things don't happen in a vaccuum, you and the right wing thugs you have whipped into a frenzy own this. It's fine to GC, just own the disgusting things that you incite. The deflection and avoidance of responsibility is almost as bad the act itself. I feel for you, I really do, there's just no hope. Take care.

No wait a minute, you are blaming women for what a man did? That cant be true.

Ok so let's be clear, what is it you believe women do to incite a man to violence?
Is it by any chance just being female? Or is it talking? Or is it a look?

Please do let us know soonest.

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 09:14

Stonewall have been campaigning for an end to single sex exemptions in the Equality Act

We ALL need to be emailing/mailing/talking to our MPs/SMPs about this fucking atrocious act that Stonewall are trying to do.

dyslek · 10/07/2021 09:18

Oh FFS everyone, stop giving these clowns oxygen.

Though I guess it is such a clear display of the DARVO this movement uses to shield its facism from public vier that any observers must be needing oxygen masks right now iykwim.

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 09:21

Stonewall have been campaigning for an end to single sex exemptions in the Equality Act

Stonewall want to undo all protections for Religious women and men.

Stonewall want to undo all protections for homosexual women and men.

Stonewall want to undo all protections for Women.

Stonewall want to undo all protections for those who belong to ethnic minorities due to them being disproportionately being affected by TRA and MRA demands.

If you are

Female
Male
Lesbian/Gay
Bi-sexual
Religious
Pregnant (or a female who may become pregnant)
Part of an ethnic minority (inc White Traveller/Gypsy)

Stonewall are everyday lobbying the government to take away your Rights.

dyslek · 10/07/2021 09:25

You forgot about mulitilating and sex abuse of kids, that is that too

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 10/07/2021 09:26

demanding that anyone have surgery to be considered a real woman runs counter to every feminist ideal of informed, empowered choice.

I’m not surprised that someone who clearly has no idea what feminism is — or knows and opposes it — should tell feminists how to do feminism properly, Ereshkigalangcleg.

I just wonder why they would bother to call themselves feminists? It’s not even fashionable.

FemaleAndLearning · 10/07/2021 09:27

[quote Ereshkigalangcleg]twitter.com/msediewyatt/status/1413007992484601864?s=20[/quote]
Thanks for sharing this. That woman is amazing. She used plain language that made it very clear what that man was in that changing for - semi erect penis.

I really hope this starts a chain reaction of change.

Congressdingo · 10/07/2021 09:28

It may well be but, until I hear the LAPD say 'we've investigated this and it happened and this is why we think that', then I am going to have my doubts

I can repeat this until the cows come home. Not one police force anywhere will investigate this or any other incident like this.
Why? Because it's not against the law to be a man in a woman only space if that man says the magic words

"I am a woman"

Now I disagree, but I dont make the laws.

Etorih · 10/07/2021 09:29

It's great when the hard of thinking turn up here with their arguments to tell women why cock and balls should be allowed in women's spaces. Their lack of logic just clearly highlight even further exactly why cock and balls shouldn't be there.

In the end it simply boils down to the fact that those who are predators want to be able to undress next to naked women and little kids. That's it. They don't want the opportunity to be taken away from them. After all, they've come so far. The removal of safeguards for women and children is every predators state sanctioned wet dream.

ScreamingMeMe · 10/07/2021 09:30

@dyslek

Oh FFS everyone, stop giving these clowns oxygen.

Though I guess it is such a clear display of the DARVO this movement uses to shield its facism from public vier that any observers must be needing oxygen masks right now iykwim.

I dunno, sometimes I enjoy watching the fine minds of FWR tear these stupid posts to bits. It's quite cathartic and educational.

The absolute nerve of TRAs trying to get us to take responsibility for something we have no control over, whilst doing anything to wriggle out of taking any responsibility for or even condoning something which is a direct result of what they have been pushing on women for years and something we have been warning about for years...well, it's remarkable.

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 09:32

I agree.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2021 09:35

The "alternative reporting" is 100 percent bullshit, anonymously sourced innuendos written by an anonymous author. There's no there there.

This.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2021 09:37

However, reading some alternative reporting I would not be totally shocked if we were heading for another Ian Huntley is trans debacle. Do you remember that?

What I remember, statsgeek is that it was reported in a National newspaper, and believed by many TRAs, including such luminaries as Jane Fae, who said that Huntley shouldn't be misgendered.

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 09:42

For those who do not know.

Ian Huntley is the man who brutally murdered two young schoolgirls.

He was the school caretaker who was filmed by a news reporting crew, acting all heartbroken.

It is still reported as one of the most shocking crimes ever in UK modern history.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2021 09:42

The absolute nerve of TRAs trying to get us to take responsibility for something we have no control over, whilst doing anything to wriggle out of taking any responsibility for or even condoning something which is a direct result of what they have been pushing on women for years and something we have been warning about for years...well, it's remarkable.

Isn't it. It's quite enlightening to many, I'm sure.

Floisme · 10/07/2021 09:42

Well I seem to have missed quite a night. It's taken me a while to catch up but I recommend anyone else joining the thread this morning to go back and read every post from Steph751 and statsgeek1 .

Every single one, not just the quotes - illuminating as they are, you need to read the whole lot
I hope they're not taken down because these 2 posters have just shown us in their own words exactly who they are.

BaronMunchausen · 10/07/2021 09:43

”I'm surprised that people think pre-op trans women as a whole would want to expose the body they hate to others. I'm not saying there aren't had trans people but i 'd be astonished if we're a common trait.”

The point is that, on the basis of self-id, any man could access women’s safe spaces. Indeed the spa seems to have either assumed or knew that the penis-haver in question identified as a woman - it wasn’t Angel - so possibly men don’t even have to actively identify as women to get that access.

Datun · 10/07/2021 09:44

Just in case stats and Steph still aren't clear.

So, it's OK for a man to go into the women's section, show his penis around the other women, young little girls, underage, in your spa? Wi Spa condones that, is that what you're saying?' the woman asks.

Which he did.

The staff member's response remains unclear as it is difficult to hear their response behind the Plexiglas at the counter. However, Fox News reported that the clerk appeared to say that the transgender customer was protected by California law.

Which he is.

Hordes of people showed up outside of Wi Spa on Wilshire Boulevard to support a woman who had complained about the alleged exposure incident when they were met by Antifa counter-protesters supporting transgender rights.

Which they make no secret of. Frankly, if it was me, I would be trying to distance myself from them, because they appear to be to be nothing more than a rent a thug.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9753675/amp/Violence-breaks-spa-customer-complains-transgender-woman-exposing-penis-kids.html

And if, which I believe is correct, there are at least 12 lurkers for every poster, that means there are 12,000 people reading that article and comments.

Fortunately, this whole it didn't happen, and if it did it's because she's a right-wing bigot, and if there was violence, it's your fault, schtick seems to be confined to under the stones on Twitter.

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 09:46

Floisme

Yes.

Also - their "names"

ScreamingMeMe · 10/07/2021 09:49

Calling either religious groups or far right groups "GC" is patently ridiculous. Both these groups uphold gender stereotypes.

And have you forgotten already that the lady who complained is religious? You were making a pretty big deal of it not so long ago.

Datun · 10/07/2021 09:52

@BaronMunchausen

”I'm surprised that people think pre-op trans women as a whole would want to expose the body they hate to others. I'm not saying there aren't had trans people but i 'd be astonished if we're a common trait.”

The point is that, on the basis of self-id, any man could access women’s safe spaces. Indeed the spa seems to have either assumed or knew that the penis-haver in question identified as a woman - it wasn’t Angel - so possibly men don’t even have to actively identify as women to get that access.

Yeah, I'm over that too. If I had a penny for every TRA who says no one wants to show their penis, in response to men showing their penis...

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 10/07/2021 09:55

Oh look

Overnight some male people who have no understanding of what it’s like to be raised as a girl and live as a woman in western society turned up to blame women for men’s actions

How lovely