Article about WiSpa incident *title edited by MNHQ*

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www.losangelesblade.com/2021/07/07/alleged-trans-incident-at-upscale-la-spa-may-have-been-staged/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&cf_chl_jschl_tk=5829536c8d2fa7597130f41074d1ff4ddc091aee-1625785481-0-AcMexoncOasqbydtxZLnvW3kf86pvnmRUcmnFRJO3kDQTTPi3WE1pqsYEciE_bUv0_NrLqCEBB07kbXA9xARnFe7KkItHOoJesYdjEC6fhZlzSdZR5jNea3Hx86Run4GtO5awEU3NnavY0JvTjYrnAVNCm8tEidf1SMMw3N5siRBk8qD1VNkFgE5cpMkcjvQeRQOADtTSBAxPmJBCYcnt9-8vGTpjCqttCRHPJpNcOTVZ1yeJUoMKwXTMHx6TYPRXfLtl9iMGeP4hL9uTYPEGTlrpO9oNuwAKavdw2-gxpOKI_xUiq2v9Du5DREcmzRyp0Hbw663FPxWtUH30wzqS_uBK7ghaCwgVJq80Jqm_6IrKuwhmZZ8v63Pz43HNOLM_Z_LDzQaSLaudEQf8hcoUFVdcbQMtr1ZG0MPaesDmdB4iEDbdrdpR_yjmAZ0Pv1v151venXcbcYpUYyEtdcU8_kRH-iv2XYtf7vdtY_vfuu3DyzzvhXUk31-zNSYJlPMkVbHzQkZkuQMw4yQy7XsOSaoMPKRTgsJORo6DtRdu5NMqMu8190zks0sRxJeosg8KWSjnO33FKQXycbDay-9eGQagXI2tsfaurfG3jb2p3SV-f8fzRSwfCOf8C9-TmWrow#Echobox=1625710145

Are you taking note US American MNetters?

I'm dizzy.

So first, Beardy McBeardface in reception declares the person with an erection around little girls is transgender, despite the woman not mentioning a trans person. She said man.

Activists rally to defend transperson, much victim blaming of little girls ensues.

Activists realise the general public is looking at them in horror as they victim blame little girls, and the story changes to ''it wasn't a transgender person, it was a man'' (despite them always being keen to tell us that no man is going to bother exploiting these fab new inclusive laws for sinister reasons).

Activists realise that people are waking up, and can see that the reason a man was allowed into the spa to get an erection around little girls is because we have to accept that everyone is who they say they are, no questions. That's what was campaigned for.

Narrative swiftly changes to the man not even existing, the woman is making it up and must have got a bunch of other women and children to play along with her...

Now we're back to it was a trans person and ''ha ha there's nothing you can do about it and if a group of male thugs turn up to be violent that's women's fault, and if you don't want to literally be responsible for men's violence, maybe think twice before objecting to erections around your naked daughters''.

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I wonder if the facilities would be quite so appealing for some, if the women and children weren't in there ready to be flashed by cock and balls?

I also wonder why transwomen are so desperate to be in spaces where men have their cocks out. Women want to keep men out. But transwomen want men in their women's spaces?

Wouldn't it be easier for transwomen wanting men in their spaces to just go to the men's space? Then everyone would be happy.

And now you are doing the Peppermint Twist 😊

I haven't made any comment on whether I personally think this alleged incident is a hoax or not.
Well among many other things, you have said this:
For what it's worth, the transwoman who used the spa did inform the staff beforehand they were trans, and when they were using the spa the staff did inform any female customers as they entered that there was a transwoman currently using the spa.
You did say that didn't you?
Are you now saying it didn't happen?

Wouldn't it be easier for transwomen wanting men in their spaces to just go to the men's space? Then everyone would be happy.

You'd think so. Cock and balls galore. But I don't think some of them want other men to see their cocks. They only want the ladies and little girls to cop a look. Whether they like it or not.

Etorih

We have a word for that in my culture.

Are you now saying it didn't happen?

I think they're saying that in the staged hoax incident the female customers, who were lying, said that the spa informed them beforehand about the person being trans.

I think. But I'm getting a bit confused about who was in on the hoax. Was the woke bloke from Evergreen a perpetrator or victim of the hoax?

Was the alleged transwoman real, or a paid actor?

Did we establish whether this was filmed at the real spa, or on a set?

The safeguarding question was answered by Steph and stats last night with a resounding, no it is not acceptable to have a male with a penis naked getting into a hottub with a six year old or a nine year old. They were very honest about that, and we really appreciated their candour on it.

Would you like to answer MargaritaPie?

We all have and we agree it is a very clear 'no'.

Wouldn't it be easier for transwomen wanting men in their spaces to just go to the men's space? Then everyone would be happy.

There was a mixed space for those comfortable with the opposite sex, that would seem a reasonable solution, no?

We have a word for that in my culture.

Ooh, I wonder what it is 🤔 let me guess, I'm sure I know this one...

As Sophocles said upthread, perhaps @MargaritaPie could advise us on how women can object to a man exposing himself to children?

because it's not OK is it?

and as we have seen in the case of Sarah Everard's murder, it is often a gateway crime to more serious sexual offences. Men who expose themselves should be prosecuted

women who report sexual offences should be believed

@PurpleHoodie

Etorih

We have a word for that in my culture.

Etorih

(Psst. Two words. One beginning with P, which is used as the official classification. The second one is a cultural name)

@MargaritaPie Do you think it's ok for a male (however they identify) to expose their cock and balls to women and children? Is it?

There was a mixed space for those comfortable with the opposite sex, that would seem a reasonable solution, no?

Oh, absolutely, but that was no-nudity. That would suit most people, I'm sure. I was considering the specific needs of those wanting cock-and-ball displays in a spa.

was considering the specific needs of those wanting cock-and-ball displays in a spa.

It's an interesting point. I'm sure there's a few posters here that could answer this in depth. Anyone? Margarita?

I was considering the specific needs of those wanting cock-and-ball displays in a spa

their specific need is prosecution and imprisonment

regardless of how a male identifies, if they are exposing themselves in public to women and children, they are a sex offender

Steph

Of course it is not okay for anyone to waive their genitalia around infront of children

Statsgeek

No it is not acceptable for someone to expose their genitals to a child. Are you deranged asking a question like that?

Here in the UK it is subject to the law, generally under the crime of exposure or outraging the public decency.

You seem to diverge from this position, Margarita?

Antifa actually published their own video of themselves beating up the peaceful protesters and journalists, because they were so proud of themselves... right side of history and all.

So it's a bit late in the day for the DARVO but I suppose some people will believe anything.

Including two opposite ideas apparently (this was perfectly normal and legal, oh, and also the police should have been called otherwise it's a hoax)

This whole thing. Went.

Activists fight in various countries around the world to get laws/ policies changed so that transpeople can use the facilities, be in the areas where they feel most comfortable

Women said hold on what about all the dodgy men

Responses ranged from don't be so. Prudish, phobic, hysterical, paranoid. And if men want to attack you they will anyway. And it's not going to happen. And stop being exclusionary and oppressive etc etc.

Laws and policies of various types in various countries do get changed.

This incident happens.

Responses range from.

She's making it all up. It's a hoax. It's horrible right wing people whipping up hate. Women/ little girls shouldn't be rude. They should pretend not to notice. Be kind.
Why was there no police report (um. Because it's legal, that's what you have been fighting for all this time!).

Etc etc.

It's so dishonest really.

MargaritaPie For what it's worth, the transwoman who used the spa did inform the staff beforehand they were trans, and when they were using the spa the staff did inform any female customers as they entered that there was a transwoman currently using the spa.

Hmm, in the video there's an Asian woman at the far end of the counter who on finding out about the naked man in the women's spa area is demanding her money back. CubanAngel can be heard insisting they give her her money back. Now I might be dim, but I find it strange that she'd be told about the man, pay her money and then demand it back again because she hears the complaints about the man.

when they were using the spa the staff did inform any female customers as they entered that there was a transwoman currently using the spa.

Well maybe the staff forgot to tell the women that there was someone with their cock and balls out naked in the women's spa, because those women piling out seemed more than a little surprised to me. ☺️