Article about WiSpa incident *title edited by MNHQ*

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www.losangelesblade.com/2021/07/07/alleged-trans-incident-at-upscale-la-spa-may-have-been-staged/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&cf_chl_jschl_tk=5829536c8d2fa7597130f41074d1ff4ddc091aee-1625785481-0-AcMexoncOasqbydtxZLnvW3kf86pvnmRUcmnFRJO3kDQTTPi3WE1pqsYEciE_bUv0_NrLqCEBB07kbXA9xARnFe7KkItHOoJesYdjEC6fhZlzSdZR5jNea3Hx86Run4GtO5awEU3NnavY0JvTjYrnAVNCm8tEidf1SMMw3N5siRBk8qD1VNkFgE5cpMkcjvQeRQOADtTSBAxPmJBCYcnt9-8vGTpjCqttCRHPJpNcOTVZ1yeJUoMKwXTMHx6TYPRXfLtl9iMGeP4hL9uTYPEGTlrpO9oNuwAKavdw2-gxpOKI_xUiq2v9Du5DREcmzRyp0Hbw663FPxWtUH30wzqS_uBK7ghaCwgVJq80Jqm_6IrKuwhmZZ8v63Pz43HNOLM_Z_LDzQaSLaudEQf8hcoUFVdcbQMtr1ZG0MPaesDmdB4iEDbdrdpR_yjmAZ0Pv1v151venXcbcYpUYyEtdcU8_kRH-iv2XYtf7vdtY_vfuu3DyzzvhXUk31-zNSYJlPMkVbHzQkZkuQMw4yQy7XsOSaoMPKRTgsJORo6DtRdu5NMqMu8190zks0sRxJeosg8KWSjnO33FKQXycbDay-9eGQagXI2tsfaurfG3jb2p3SV-f8fzRSwfCOf8C9-TmWrow#Echobox=1625710145

I want a nacho chamber.

I make great nachos. I'd love a dedicated room to eat them in.

If invite you all 😀

Well, luckily last night both Stef and Stats told us that they indeed thought it unacceptable for a male with a penis to be naked in a spa with a six year old or a nine year old girl.

However, neither of them believed it happened. Stef did acknowledge there were ‘bad’ (their word iirc) umm… people (they used another word but I am sure to be deleted if those two words appear today).

Of course, the outrage was that the police would have been involved if it was true. Because it was ‘exposure’! Both neglecting to acknowledge that exposure of one’s penis in a naked spa when one is supposedly legally there is going to be rather impossible to prove under those conditions.

Am I delirious, a nacho chamber invite! Oh yes please!! Lots of cheese and sour cream please.

You’re all welcome to my nacho chamber. No double dipping.

Stef and Stats said in their deleted posts that (paraphrase) nonces spreading their legs and exposing their male genitals in front of children and women was bad?

Good. They should keep posting that.

Who on earth do you think wound him up into such a frenzy? I'm normally polite and engage in good faith but, don't you dare have the audacity to absolve yourself of or at least absolve the GC ideology of responsibility for what happened. The nerve of you is astounding.

Not read the whole thread but this made me think of Alison Phipps and the allegations of "white feminism, white women's tears racism" which causes white male violence against black men.

Except here it's a woman of colour leading to white men assaulting the Asian and South American men that attempted to stand in protest.

The "women are guilty of causing male violence" accusations can be flipped around racially at will it seems.

Any woman's tears, Alison, maybe put that in your next book.

In reality there is a cadre of men who enjoy violence and will show up disguised and armed at any event ready to have their enjoyment. And yet people are motivated to attribute their motives to others. Some men just enjoy violence. It's not necessary to find a woman to hang for it.

spectatorworld.com/life/rude-stare-woman-penis-locker-room-spa/

@PurpleHoodie

Stef and Stats said in their deleted posts that (paraphrase) nonces spreading their legs and exposing their male genitals in front of children and women was bad?

Good. They should keep posting that.

They did.

For the record statsgeek said

’ No it is not acceptable for someone to expose their genitals to a child. Are you deranged asking a question like that?’

It missed out the situational context but we get the idea.

And I can assure you all that I don’t feel I am ‘deranged’ for asking the question. Amazingly both posters answered and I appreciate that they did.

That spectator Jarvis DuPont parody provided me with some much needed light relief.

No it is not acceptable for someone to expose their genitals to a child. Are you deranged asking a question like that?’

Oh, that's good. So they have completely vindicated the woman.

I love some Jarvis!

Helleofabore

Thanks

Datun

Great news

Well no datun. Both posters insisted the police would deal with it as it was a sex abuse case.

So, really the circle goes round and around. It is rather a blatant lack of acknowledging that the discrimination bill hinders and may even prevent, any form of police investigation. And so it goes.

Laws being created to block rape/sex abuse/sex attack/exposure reports.

Not a good look for any political Parties.

@Helleofabore

Well no datun. Both posters insisted the police would deal with it as it was a sex abuse case.

So, really the circle goes round and around. It is rather a blatant lack of acknowledging that the discrimination bill hinders and may even prevent, any form of police investigation. And so it goes.

Sorry, I was being a bit facetious, to be honest.

Because I couldn't work out if a naked man exposing his penis in the spa is not at all the same as a naked transwoman just having a penis in a spa.

Or whether exposing a penis is fine, but 'waggling' one isn't.

And whether or not the position of the child, their face, or their eyes, was relevant.

Of course, the simultaneous complete denial of it ever happening, from start to finish, does rather indicate that there is not a single person who thinks it's acceptable.

Transactivists have been campaigning for decades to have this made legal. So i'm now assuming they're all horrified at what they've done.

Transactivists have been campaigning for decades to have this made legal. So i'm now assuming they're all horrified at what they've done.

More and more people are going to video negative outcomes just as this woman did.

TRAs and MRAs are going to find themselves up on t'tube defending the indefensible.

Like the donuts who got sacked, and up on charges, for accosting Chris Whitty.

@Helleofabore

Am I delirious, a nacho chamber invite! Oh yes please!! Lots of cheese and sour cream please.

I make the chips out of tortillas, part baked then topped with jalapenos and a mix of mozzarella and cheddar cheese and then popped back in the oven to melt. Then a range of sides: sour cream, salsa, smashed avocado, limed sweet corn, chopped tomato, spring onions and lettuce. Maybe refried beans if I have some in the freezer.

DH occasionally adds tuna to his nachos, I sometimes add shredded chicken, so you'd get those choices too.

After you'll be offered vanilla ice cream with chopped berries and a splash of pomegranate molasses, maybe a wafer or a ginger snap.

To be honest we have tacos, burritos and quesadillas with the same sides. I think I like the salad mix more than the main 😁

Sorry Datun. I know you were.

I started answering in the same tone the wandered off.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

That spectator Jarvis DuPont parody provided me with some much needed light relief.

I don't know what I expected but that wasn't it 😅

@Helleofabore

Sorry Datun. I know you were.

I started answering in the same tone the wandered off.

😆 honestly it's true, the ideology is where satire, irony and facetiousness goes to die.

curious

That is a feast. Not sure about tuna nachos, but hey, I would give it a try…

Really not happy at the deletions.

Quite cheered by nachos, though.

Do you or do you not believe, @MishyJDI* @statsgeek1 and @Steph751 that a biological male pre op trans person has the perfect right to enter a naked female only spa area?*

Just going to repeat this cause it's such a good question.

Utterly mindboggling that we are being accused of transphobia for saying this is unacceptable, and then told minutes later that if it did happen the police should be investigating because it's so unacceptable

Naked male wagging his penis about, in a designated female only area, when there are male-only and mixed-sex areas in the same space/business.

Nothing dodge' about that.....