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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sainsbury's and gender neutral toilets

98 replies

McDuffy · 28/06/2021 10:11

So, Ocado's knee jerk reaction to Posie's AHF poster is what brought me over here almost three years ago. I had been a loyal customer for so long that I was on their freebies panel and still ditched them over this (I miss them, great service but my principles on this trumped that).
We switched to Sainsbury's and I've got a delivery pass with them. Just seen (Jean Hatchet on Twitter) that they're introducing "gender neutral" loos and I'm going to leave to make a point. DH does the food shop but is a big ally to women and will agree to switch.

Who's left to use? Tesco and Waitrose are captured too. Are Asda or Morrisons in the cult? I can shop locally to an extent but both of us work full time and have two small kids so need a delivery at the moment.

OP posts:
WarOnWoman · 28/06/2021 17:05

Why is it that posters who say "I don't mind sharing space" think that's a catch all argument?

mustlovegin · 28/06/2021 17:06

Maybe Sainsbury's and the rest don't understand what they are doing and need someone to explain?

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:10

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:27

What was that deletion about?
I said nothing controversial. I even said I had sympathy for trans woman with regard toilets.

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:32

I want my post reinstated.
I've read the talk guidelines and nothing in my post crossed them. MNHQ please explain what exactly I said that broke the rules?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/06/2021 17:38

@Kendodd

I want my post reinstated. I've read the talk guidelines and nothing in my post crossed them. MNHQ please explain what exactly I said that broke the rules?
You might have to report your post to get an answer

Or maybe try and remember….did you post ‘bless’ or ‘yawn’ or Biscuit or any mumsnet emoji that mumsnet might have changed their mind about

Cos that might be why youve been deleted

(Im never letting that biscuit deletion go…might put it on my gravestone)

Tibtom · 28/06/2021 17:43

If you mean supermarkets that recognise progressive society rather than regressive segregation

I was reading "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" to my child last night. King Caspian declared the slave trade in the Lone Islands must stop:

"But that would be putting the clock back," gasped the govenor. "Have you no idea of progress, of development?"
"I have seen them both in an egg," said Caspian. "We call it 'Going Bad' in Narnia. This trade must stop."

Jojoanna · 28/06/2021 17:47

I don’t want gender neutral toilets. I won’t be shopping there

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:55

No emoji used.
I said the council could argue the urinals are mixed sex.

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:55

I said 80% of trans women could use the urinals

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:55

I said I bet they would queue with the women and children instead

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:56

I said most trans women don't pass

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:56

I said I had sympathy for trans women with regards toilets.

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:57

I said if a trans woman uses the mens they feel frightened

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:57

I said if they use the women's, women feel frightened

Kendodd · 28/06/2021 17:58

Experiment above to see what gets deleted.

Temp023 · 28/06/2021 17:59

I’m actually not fussed about trans women using the ladies. I don’t want to share loos with men because they piss all over the bloody floor.

Tibtom · 28/06/2021 18:05

@Temp023

I’m actually not fussed about trans women using the ladies. I don’t want to share loos with men because they piss all over the bloody floor.
Transwomen are men so why do you think they won't 'piss all over the bloody floor'?

And I do mind men sharing toilets we men, regardless of how they identify.

RedDogsBeg · 28/06/2021 18:51

@Temp023

I’m actually not fussed about trans women using the ladies. I don’t want to share loos with men because they piss all over the bloody floor.
Well, I am fussed so where does that leave us then? Which of us overrules the other?

Transwoman are men, women should not have to share toilets with men, men have toilets provided for them those are the ones that all men, no matter how they identify should use.

Have a look at that twitter feed linked earlier, are you really not fussed about sharing toilets and changing facilities after seeing that? Do you think young girls should run the risk of encountering that?

Jojoanna · 28/06/2021 19:24

Temp023 I don’t want to share with men either because they piss all over the floor , so they can stay in the men’s loos

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/06/2021 19:27

@Kendodd

Experiment above to see what gets deleted.
Good thinking
ifIwerenotanandroid · 28/06/2021 19:36

@kendodd is there a sweepstake? I reckon it's 17:56:15, with 17:55:33 as a second guess.

What do we win?

And what does the biscuit emoji mean? I've never understood that one, especially as some remain, don't they?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/06/2021 19:47

It means no comment

😳

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/06/2021 19:48

Or at least it says so on the emoji list below

But I assume it can also mean ‘fuck off you disingenuous cunt’ and thats why it got deleted

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/06/2021 19:49

Dammit android i think its 17.56 :15 as well

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