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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I thought this was interesting - Oli London comes out as non-binary and Korean

106 replies

justanotherneighinparadise · 22/06/2021 18:45

mobile.twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1407026281577910282

Twitter is telling them you cannot call yourself Korean if you’re not Korean.

OP posts:
Bythemillpond · 24/06/2021 13:55

This is hilarious

I am coming out as an American.
Can I get my Green Card now.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 24/06/2021 14:09

I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I've lived in England for longer than half of my life. I speak English (2nd language). I have a British passport (well, dual citizenship), a British husband, drive a British car, have travelled on British Airways, have eaten British food, have sung "God save the Queen", have drunk thousands of cuppas and ate lots of fish & chips.

yet I don't identify as British.
I guess I'm just Brit-ish

Mumtotwofurbabies · 24/06/2021 14:19

Someone just posted this on Twitter as a reason why you can’t transition nationality but can gender…..errrmmm 🤦‍♀️🤔🤔‘There is a difference between transitioning into a new gender, which doesn’t harm anyone else, and choosing to live a lie to the detriment of other people who form the oppressed group that you’re so desperate to be a part of.‘

Hoppinggreen · 24/06/2021 14:22

Such a shame he was assigned Caucasian at birth.

haggistramp · 24/06/2021 14:35

Is Korean a race or a nationality. Identifying as a race is impossible imo in the same way sex is. You either are or you are not. Nationality, crack on. Lots of non Scottish born people identify as Scottish and are welcomed into the fold.

ChristinaXYZ · 24/06/2021 14:37

I notice Oli defends JKR just after the 6 min mark on the youtube coming out and attacks 'woke' people for cancelling others. Says the woke will do the same re the Korean identity. And of course the woke will but they opened this can of worms with their affirmation without question. It also opens another can of worms - that lots of the criticism of Oli points out that you can't be Korean unless by blood. Is this were we are going now - blood and soil definitions of nationality? Unpleasant.

Micemakingclothes · 24/06/2021 15:02

The cognitive dissonance in the comments of they/them/kor/ean’s Twitter feed is just bizarre.

I have no idea if Oli is a bit crazy or just a publicity seeker and I don’t really care. Watching this play out is quite amusing.

Lordamighty · 24/06/2021 15:03

Why shouldn’t he identify as Korean? If men can identify as women what is the difference? I’m really looking forward to the trans age identifiers, that should really test the limits of the allies.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 24/06/2021 15:18

@Lordamighty

Why shouldn’t he identify as Korean? If men can identify as women what is the difference? I’m really looking forward to the trans age identifiers, that should really test the limits of the allies.
because you can't become a nationality through sheer wishing. that's not how naturalisation of citizens work, anywhere, ever.

I had to pledge alliance to the Queen in a courtroom (eek) after applying for a British citizenship with various documents and having a solid reason.

and no, you will not become a woman because you think you are or feel like one (whatever either of those things even mean)

Hoppinggreen · 24/06/2021 15:33

Of course you can change nationality if you go through the right process but you can’t change race so if Oli has a Korean passport good luck to him but if he thinks he’s Korean in race terms then he’s not

Lordamighty · 24/06/2021 15:43

@ZingDramaQueenOfSheebaost - I think my post, dripping in sarcasm, was lost in translation. Of course you can’t self Id as Korean, in the same way as you can’t self identify as a woman. If only the loony tunes on the internet could see the parallels.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 24/06/2021 16:13

@Lordamighty

sorry, totally misread you. 😘

I shall grant you Hungarian citizenship by sheer will as a form of apology 🤣

EishetChayil · 24/06/2021 16:23

Oli's obsession with the boy band star began when they spent time working in South Korea – and a compulsion for cosmetic surgery soon followed.

See, this is where "they" pronouns get confusing. This sentence reads as if Oli and Jimin worked together.

Lordamighty · 24/06/2021 17:22

[quote ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba]@Lordamighty

sorry, totally misread you. 😘

I shall grant you Hungarian citizenship by sheer will as a form of apology 🤣[/quote]
I’ll take that, they were very impressive against the Germans last night at Euro 2020, I wish they had gone through.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 24/06/2021 17:58

thanks @Lordamighty

it was a brilliant game. in the Group of Death. I'm so proud.
but hey, come on England!😉

Beancounter1 · 24/06/2021 22:15

@EishetChayil

Oli's obsession with the boy band star began when they spent time working in South Korea – and a compulsion for cosmetic surgery soon followed.

See, this is where "they" pronouns get confusing. This sentence reads as if Oli and Jimin worked together.

That is exactly how I read it - two people worked together. I am not in favour of mangling language.
Voice0fReason · 24/06/2021 22:41

You can identify as anything you want,
but it doesn't make it true.

CardinalLolzy · 24/06/2021 22:48

I'd not heard of this person before but I just googled them and they look like Nicky Wire in some pictures, sorry Nicky

NonnyMouse1337 · 25/06/2021 04:59

@Lordamighty

Why shouldn’t he identify as Korean? If men can identify as women what is the difference? I’m really looking forward to the trans age identifiers, that should really test the limits of the allies.
Have you come across Stefonknee Wolscht? 😬😬😬
NonnyMouse1337 · 25/06/2021 05:06

This guy sounds quite messed up, but I can't fault his logic. The cognitive dissonance of the people replying to his post is hilarious.

twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1407946572453847042?s=20

If a man can become a woman. A woman can become a man. Then why cannot someone become Korean? I support the right for everyone to choose who they are and be who they were born to be. So WOKE people-don’t be hypocritical & preach about one thing but reject someone who is Korean.

RickiTarr · 25/06/2021 05:41

@CiaoForNiao

I really can't work out who is taking the liss and who isn't any more, the whole thing is just so ridiculous

Same.

It reminds me of a YouTube video I saw where a man asks a load of people if he can identify as a woman if he wants. They all say yes. Then he asks if he can identify as 6foot tall and they say yes, even though he isn't. He asks about IDing as a child, a Chinese person. They get progressively less sure that yes he can self ID as something he isn't, but of course if they say 'no' then he'd question why he can claim to be a woman. I think by the end he basically gets them to agree that he's a 6ft tall, 7 year old Chinese girl.

Grin
Sidesaladofchips · 25/06/2021 05:46

Clearly mentally unwell.

WarOnWoman · 25/06/2021 09:35

@NonnyMouse1337

This guy sounds quite messed up, but I can't fault his logic. The cognitive dissonance of the people replying to his post is hilarious.

twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1407946572453847042?s=20

If a man can become a woman. A woman can become a man. Then why cannot someone become Korean? I support the right for everyone to choose who they are and be who they were born to be. So WOKE people-don’t be hypocritical & preach about one thing but reject someone who is Korean.

Good on Oli. He went there. He told them exactly how it is. He really did.

They are refusing to see it. Their minds must be melting by now.

BooksChocolateAndSleep · 25/06/2021 10:11

Oh I've just been reading all of this (late to the party) and it's absolutely crazy! He seems like an overindulged rich kid and the people who are offended by his new found nationality are just not getting how ridiculous and Hypocritical they sound!!

I reckon he is going to be one messed up person as he gets older.

Lordamighty · 25/06/2021 17:43

@NonnyMouse1337 unfortunately I have heard of Stefonknee.