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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Telegraph: Police forces threatened with legal action over links to Stonewall

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FindTheTruth · 09/06/2021 08:57

Exclusive: Police forces threatened with legal action over links to Stonewall
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/08/exclusive-police-forces-threatened-legal-action-links-stonewall/
(sorry I don't have a share link)
Campaigners warn that affiliation with the charity could breach police rules on political activity
By Ewan Somerville and Hayley Dixon, 8 June 2021 • 9:00pm

The topic of Police neutrality is getting a lot of attention

RECENT THREADS ON POLICE SCOTLAND:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4221733-Rape-suspects-can-choose-to-self-identify-as-female-Times-Scotland

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4263474-Police-Scotland-sexism-and-misogyny-2020-report

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4251696-Scottish-woman-told-would-be-charged-for-homophobic-and-transphobic-tweets

RECENT SPECIFIC POSTS ON POLICE LACK OF NEUTRALITY:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4261822-This-might-also-be-good-news?msgid=107910618#107910618

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FindTheTruth · 10/06/2021 18:42

Legal advisors to the police will be turning over todays judgement with a fine toothcomb. They cannot arrest women for dissent from gender theory.

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WeeSisters · 10/06/2021 18:44

My Stonewall diversity training at work was done by Morgan Page, who is most famous for running Cotton Ceiling workshops to persuade lesbians to accept sex with penises.

Employing someone like that speaks volumes.

DeeKavCoffee · 10/06/2021 18:47

@jellybeansforbreakfast

You seem not to be reading all that is posted for you!

CharlieParley gave you an example. There are others, but you won't find it on their website. There are quite a few threads here about it over the years - but I doubt anyone has collated them.

well if i cant find it on the website then i dont think we can say SW is actively promoting that anyone who doesnt want to have sex with a transwoman is transphobic, tbh.
Tibtom · 10/06/2021 19:00

Because stonewall only ever use their website for promoting their point of view Hmm (which doesn't include promoting same sex attraction)

jellybeansforbreakfast · 10/06/2021 19:02

well if i cant find it on the website then i dont think we can say SW is actively promoting that anyone who doesnt want to have sex with a transwoman is transphobic, tbh.

Really? Then there is no point in discussing it further, is there?

DeeKavCoffee · 10/06/2021 19:03

I agree @jellybeansforbreakfast, that argument has failed.

but we have much better ones that that lets be honest

Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/06/2021 19:03

Bunbury is finding this thread interesting

Anyway back on topic! The police’s total capture on this is eye opening

DeeKavCoffee · 10/06/2021 19:08

@Theeyeballsinthesky sorry for derailing!! Grin

who is bunbury?

jellybeansforbreakfast · 10/06/2021 19:12

Quite right eyeballs

Policing Insight has a piece on it but I don't know anyone with access to it. It would be interesting to read it, see how it is seen from their perspective!

ANiceCupofCoffee · 10/06/2021 19:13

[quote DeeKavCoffee]@Tibtom i just looked SW's definitions up again (pasted below)... i dont see anything about lesbians being transphobic if they don't get with transwomen. can you link me?

there's valid gender critical points and then there's just plain myths and fantasies, i dont particularly want to get involved with the latter

Gay

Refers to a man who has a romantic and/or sexual orientation towards men. Also a generic term for lesbian and gay sexuality - some women define themselves as gay rather than lesbian. Some non-binary people may also identify with this term.

Homosexual

This might be considered a more medical term used to describe someone who has a romantic and/or sexual orientation towards someone of the same gender. The term ‘gay’ is now more generally used.

Homophobia

The fear or dislike of someone, based on prejudice or negative attitudes, beliefs or views about lesbian, gay or bi people. Homophobic bullying may be targeted at people who are, or who are perceived to be, lesbian, gay or bi.

Lesbian

Refers to a woman who has a romantic and/or sexual orientation towards women. Some non-binary people may also identify with this term.[/quote]
Because they insist that transwomen are women, but they’re not. Transwomen are men.

SpindleWhorl · 10/06/2021 19:32

Meanwhile, there's this whole Police and Stonewall thing, eh?

FindTheTruth · 11/06/2021 09:16

Indeed there's this whole Police and Stonewall thing Spindle, tis what the thread is about. People cannot be discriminated against for their beliefs and the Police cannot interview, arrest or charge people for their belief (unless it's nazism or totalitarianism).

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