Mermaids, Gendered Intelligence & Fox killer launch appeal against Charity Commission over LGB Alliance charity status

[FindTheTruth]

www.scotsman.com/news/people/lgbt-charities-launch-appeal-against-charity-commission-over-controversial-groups-status-3257923

"In April, the LGB Alliance was made a charity after the commission decided the group benefitted the public through its educational and awareness-raising activities about discrimination based on sexual orientation."

"On Tuesday, transgender children’s charity Mermaids launched an appeal against the decision at the first tier tribunal, supported by other charities and groups including Stonewall, Gendered Intelligence, and the Good Law Project."

Thought about it. Still a hate group.

So what?

The problem TRA's have is that for years the standard operating procedure has been to liberally shoot around words/phrases like "hate", "bigot", "transphobia", "T..F" and "#nodebate" as if fired from a Gatling gun with an endless supply of bullets.

Even the most ardent ally can find themselves in the firing line if they accidentally or unintentionally stray one iota off message and bullied into putting out painfully grovelling apologies and promises to "do better".

The thing is that over time those words from the same people on the same subject have lost their weight - much like a person who swears prolifically finds themselves unable to use profanity to underline a point.

They've become meaningless - you've made them meaningless. Not so much bullets any more, rather a predictable, mundane slur that's actually backfired by saying more about you than the people you're taking aim at.

Of course you think the LBGA are a hate group. I wouldn't expect you to think/say anything else.

So the reaction isn't shock. It doesn't make me think/feel any less of the person/organisation you're targeting.

The reaction is "meh" usually accompanied with an eye roll 🙄.

On the odd occasion if I can be arsed I might put in a tiny bit of effort by asking for evidence for such assertions, that I know won't be provided because such slurs are unfounded but that's not for you really.

I'm not all that interested in the opinion of someone who bandies such powerful words round so lightly and groundlessly.

That's for the lurkers - to underscore exactly why their reaction should be #MehToo...

#MehToo 💐

@FindTheTruth

#MehToo 💐

Thought about it - it is still about about money and donations. Some of those involved are big organisations and have staff to pay.

@StaffRepFeistyClub

Thought about it - it is still about about money and donations. Some of those involved are big organisations and have staff to pay.

I don't think it is for Mermaids. That's run by parents.

It all has to be real doesn't it? Otherwise they've let medical professionals experiment on their children. Hence the desperation

It gives me chills.

BernardBlack, I agree.

Can you imagine giving your child a lot of medications which haven’t had any robust empirical testing and was initially intended for something else (puberty blockers)?

And then giving them other medications, with irreversible effects (cross sex hormones), without any robust, empirical and longitudinal testing?

And let them operate on their genitalia with irreversible effect?

And then suddenly start to wonder if you got it wrong...?

@DeRigueurMortis

Thought about it. Still a hate group.

So what?

The problem TRA's have is that for years the standard operating procedure has been to liberally shoot around words/phrases like "hate", "bigot", "transphobia", "T..F" and "#nodebate" as if fired from a Gatling gun with an endless supply of bullets.

Even the most ardent ally can find themselves in the firing line if they accidentally or unintentionally stray one iota off message and bullied into putting out painfully grovelling apologies and promises to "do better".

The thing is that over time those words from the same people on the same subject have lost their weight - much like a person who swears prolifically finds themselves unable to use profanity to underline a point.

They've become meaningless - you've made them meaningless. Not so much bullets any more, rather a predictable, mundane slur that's actually backfired by saying more about you than the people you're taking aim at.

Of course you think the LBGA are a hate group. I wouldn't expect you to think/say anything else.

So the reaction isn't shock. It doesn't make me think/feel any less of the person/organisation you're targeting.

The reaction is "meh" usually accompanied with an eye roll 🙄.

On the odd occasion if I can be arsed I might put in a tiny bit of effort by asking for evidence for such assertions, that I know won't be provided because such slurs are unfounded but that's not for you really.

I'm not all that interested in the opinion of someone who bandies such powerful words round so lightly and groundlessly.

That's for the lurkers - to underscore exactly why their reaction should be #MehToo...

#MehToo

Exactly (and genius).

@WoolOfBat

BernardBlack, I agree.

Can you imagine giving your child a lot of medications which haven’t had any robust empirical testing and was initially intended for something else (puberty blockers)?

And then giving them other medications, with irreversible effects (cross sex hormones), without any robust, empirical and longitudinal testing?

And let them operate on their genitalia with irreversible effect?

And then suddenly start to wonder if you got it wrong...?

Sometimes, I feel terribly sorry for these people. When you stand back and actually think that people are saying men can be women in their heads, or vice versa, and therefore we need to medically alter their entire body accordingly. It's horrifying.

The more detransitioners speak up, the more likely enlightenment there is. Frankly, it hardly bears thinking about.

Mermaids have made a bizarre tweet about 'biological fundamentalism', which seems crass considering that gay people were one of the group specifically targeted and murdered by the Nazis.
It also misrepresents feminism and feminists in a nasty way.
archive.is/HiIQW

Sometimes, I feel terribly sorry for these people. When you stand back and actually think that people are saying men can be women in their heads, or vice versa, and therefore we need to medically alter their entire body accordingly. It's horrifying

Agree. Most will have convinced themselves that they were doing the right thing for their children - egged on by Mermaids and GIDS, of course.

Check the charity commission website

Mermaids - 18 employees, 7 trustees and 31 volunteers. For year ending 31 March 2020 their total income was £902437 but they spent £1041326. £666 came from donations and legacies.

So they need the cash.

As for stonewall £8315995 income. 151 employees of which 5 earn between 70k-80k and two earn between 100k-110k

gendered intelligence - income £842,933. 27 employees

LGBT Foundation - income £2699321. 59 employees - 2 earn between 60k 90k.

So I think there is a money aspect

£666 came from donations and legacies

How very unfortunate.

£666 came from donations and legacies

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[quote Thelnebriati]Mermaids have made a bizarre tweet about 'biological fundamentalism', which seems crass considering that gay people were one of the group specifically targeted and murdered by the Nazis.
It also misrepresents feminism and feminists in a nasty way.
archive.is/HiIQW[/quote]
They're calling others fundamentalists??!!

Forgot the k

£666,000

Lot of dosh!

It is not just a couple of parents. It is a business

@StaffRepFeistyClub

Forgot the k

£666,000

Lot of dosh!

It is not just a couple of parents. It is a business

That's a beast of a figure

That's a lot of expenditure by Mermaids, I wonder what is actually spent on post paying the staff.

The Charity Commission are interested in how many charities register with the same aims and objectives. Their position can be to ask if there is already another charity with the same objectives doing the work within the same geography/demographic, why does another one also need to exist? They do in these circumstances need evidence/justification of need and difference - all of which LGBA appear to have answered on their registration submissions.

That is, I presume, the context of Mermaids and the other charities’ approach around competition and repetition.

investments 21k

Salaries 471,145 but
The total employee benefits of the key management personnel of the charity were £244,873.

office rental 15,500

So a total expenditure of £731,618 against an income of £902,437, leaves £170,819 so just shy of 19% to be spent on charitable activity.

Upshot is for every £1 donated 89p pays for staff/rent if the data/my maths is correct.

I'm not sure how that compares with other charities?

*#MehToo

Exactly (and genius).
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Thank you Datun and praise indeed given the source....though I'd probably cite my suggestion of "Peddling Lies" as the title for Rachel McKinnon/Veronica Ivy's alleged forthcoming autobiography as my best contribution to FWR .

@DeRigueurMortis

*#MehToo

Exactly (and genius).
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Thank you Datun and praise indeed given the source....though I'd probably cite my suggestion of "Peddling Lies" as the title for Rachel McKinnon/Veronica Ivy's alleged forthcoming autobiography as my best contribution to FWR .

Ha! I remember that! I snorted then too.