Mermaids, Gendered Intelligence & Fox killer launch appeal against Charity Commission over LGB Alliance charity status

[FindTheTruth]

www.scotsman.com/news/people/lgbt-charities-launch-appeal-against-charity-commission-over-controversial-groups-status-3257923

"In April, the LGB Alliance was made a charity after the commission decided the group benefitted the public through its educational and awareness-raising activities about discrimination based on sexual orientation."

"On Tuesday, transgender children’s charity Mermaids launched an appeal against the decision at the first tier tribunal, supported by other charities and groups including Stonewall, Gendered Intelligence, and the Good Law Project."

@AfternoonToffee

You know perfectly well what was meant by the reference to a TRA.

I really don't. What are you talking about? Elaborate by all means.

You seem to have some weird personal definition of what an activist is.

But we're all clear on what a woman is, right?

Oh no, wait a minute.

You seem to have some weird personal definition of what an activist is.

I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying.

Is your point that all trans people are activists then just by being trans?

Because you were the one who stated that it was possible for trans people to have a trans group and that unless they were activists they were anti trans.

All the content, links, information and discussion on this thread, and you’re scrolling past all of that in favour of repeatedly picking at one tangential comment, yeahbut? Why is that? What do you think of the merits of the case?

@Artichokeleaves

You seem to have some weird personal definition of what an activist is.

I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying.

Is your point that all trans people are activists then just by being trans?

Because you were the one who stated that it was possible for trans people to have a trans group and that unless they were activists they were anti trans.

You're not doing a very good job at it.

Nothing in your post here makes sense. That's not what I've said. Have another read.

I’ve elaborated my thoughts upthread. This sums it up: This is an action headed by a straight man (Maugham) and a straight woman (Green) against a lesbian and gay founded organisation.

I don’t think LGBA are a hate group, and I think that people who say this would do well to think about what the phrase “hate group” actually means.

@Sophoclesthefox

I’ve elaborated my thoughts upthread. This sums it up: This is an action headed by a straight man (Maugham) and a straight woman (Green) against a lesbian and gay founded organisation.

I don’t think LGBA are a hate group, and I think that people who say this would do well to think about what the phrase “hate group” actually means.

Thought about it. Still a hate group.

Silly of me, I thought you might be interested in a sensible discussion, but obviously not. I’m sure it’s much more satisfying to just shout slurs than it is to think about what’s happening.

Thought about it. Still a hate group.

Below is a tweet from Alice Roberts who is a patron of Humanists UK. She is clearly sceptical about religion (which is in line with the beliefs of Humanists UK) and does not hold back when she expresses this belief. Do you think Humanists UK is a hate group?

Prof Alice RobertsBlue heart
@theAliceRoberts
Do any Christians actually believe in miracles like this? I mean, REALLY believe, not just take it as some kind of weird metaphor? Because, you know, it seems just a bit... unlikely.
Quote Tweet

Diocese of Oxford
@oxforddiocese
· Jan 24
Water to wine was the earliest of Jesus' miracles, where people first started noticing there was something a bit different about him.

Perhaps you've noticed some glimmers of God at work. If so, we invite you to Come and See more at 10am...

I think LGB Alliance are a hate-group and that it's highly likely the decision to grant them charity status will be overturned.

What do you think

Sour grapes doesn't make them a hate group. And it's extremely unlikely that they will lose their status.
More likely that the trustees of mermaids et al will find themselves personally liable for their malicious actions though. 🤞

I believe in personal responsibility for everyone

Here she is again, on Easter Friday, one of the most important days in the Christian calendar.

Christians are very definitely persecuted in some parts of the world. Do you think the Charity Commission are about to withdraw the Charitable Status of Humanists UK?

Or do you think she is exercising her right to free speech?

Prof Alice RobertsBlue heart
@theAliceRoberts
Just a little reminder today. Dead people - don’t come back to life.
6:32 PM · Apr 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

The idea that LGBA is a hate group is so often recycled, that it’s the first of the Myths that they address on their Mythbusting page:

lgballiance.org.uk/myths/
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Myth: LGB Alliance is a hate group.
Truth: We hate waiting in for a late delivery. We hate it when the WiFi drops for no reason. We hate trailers that give away the whole movie. But we don’t hate people. We don’t practice or advocate hatred, hostility of violence towards any one or any group. If we disagree with someone, it doesn’t mean we hate them or wish them any harm.
It is perfectly possible to disagree with a person’s view or opinion without hating them or the group they are part of. Where disagreement exists it’s important to be able to have open and honest discussions; especially when it comes to human rights. So, we’re always happy to talk. In fact, that’s something we love.
We are a charity registered with the Charity Commission of England and Wales (number 1194148) and would not be able to be registered if we were a hate group. You can read the Charity Commission’s evidence-based decision to register us here: www.gov.uk/government/publications/lgb-alliance/lgb-alliance-full-decision
To read more about what we’re all about, go to: lgballiance.org.uk/about
Source: voidifremoved.substack.com/p/fact-checking-oz-katerji

Why do you think LGBA are a hate group?

Gotta love @yeahbutnaw. She's the perfect foil for GC MNetters to educate lurkers via the Socratic method 👍

@BaronessWrongCrowd

Why do you think LGBA are a hate group?

No thinking is required. It is a mantra that must be repeated by the faithful.

I don't think Humanist UK is a hate group, but I vehemently disagree with them and they oppose everything I believe. Just because I don't agree with them it doesn't make them a hate group, I have never seen them encourage violence against Christians for example and I'm sure a member of Humanist UK doesn't hate me for my beliefs. It is quite a self absorbed position to take to think that anyone not in 100% agreement with you must hate you.

@Artichokeleaves

So trans people running a group who wouldn't term themselves as activists are 'anti trans' ?

What if the organisation were headed by, say, Debbie Hayton, Fionne, MY (or similar), agitating for public acceptance that they and all TW are men who wish they were women but acknowledge they are not, and seeking to uphold the EA in line with their convictions? Does that make them 'anti trans' despite being both activists and, you know, trans?

Sorry Artichoke, that should have been quoting yeahbutnaw

Crikey - LGB Alliance has really got the major charity players spooked.

At the end of the day they are all worried about funding. The case is all about money. The LGB Alliance may well attract a lot of donations that may have gone to the others.

StaffRep That may or may not be true. They might say they are at risk of losing donations so they fulfil the requirement of being directly affected by this LGBA being a charity.

Anyone can set up a charity.

If I was to set up a health charity I guess it may impact upon some donation but I don’t reckon cancer research or British heart foundation will be taking me to court.

LGBA quite clearly doesn't meet the criteria for a hate group. It's a slur.

Good grief. The optics of this is “Snake oil grifters seeing gravy train coming to an end, lash out wildly” — did they think about the effect on the whole social conversation before launching proceedings?

On a side note, is it possible for anyone in the pro-TRA camp to debate without dishing out generous portions of “literally”? It would appear it literally isn’t.