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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mermaids, Gendered Intelligence & Fox killer launch appeal against Charity Commission over LGB Alliance charity status

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FindTheTruth · 02/06/2021 08:30

www.scotsman.com/news/people/lgbt-charities-launch-appeal-against-charity-commission-over-controversial-groups-status-3257923

"In April, the LGB Alliance was made a charity after the commission decided the group benefitted the public through its educational and awareness-raising activities about discrimination based on sexual orientation."

"On Tuesday, transgender children’s charity Mermaids launched an appeal against the decision at the first tier tribunal, supported by other charities and groups including Stonewall, Gendered Intelligence, and the Good Law Project."

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FannyCann · 03/06/2021 11:36

I thought the whole point of crowd justice was that the money went direct to the lawyers running the case?

Personally I think GLP finances are very fishy anyway. JM now works full time for them, it's his personal fiefdom. So presumably is paid a wage. And donations aren't ring fenced for particular projects. I know a very well to do lady who thought he was wonderful about brexit and PPE and was paying £50 a month to them. She was a bit annoyed about the fox killing and now with cases challenging decisions about puberty blockers she has stopped her payment. But undoubtedly they will be attracting donations for the same reasons as hers and spending the money on the other issues which some donors may not even know about.

I wonder if the charity Commission has anything to say about that?

purplepizzabunny · 03/06/2021 11:40

Very good point. They really should design their website to give potential donors options on what they wish their money should be used for. It's easy to do.

Sophoclesthefox · 03/06/2021 11:41

I remember last time I checked, the move to litigating on trans issues was a significant step away from their stated aims. Be ironic if it came to light that they were violating their own articles while pursuing a charity for violating theirs...

And let’s say it again: this is an action headed by a straight man (Maugham) and a straight woman (Green) against a lesbian and gay founded organisation.

This is where we are.

Paralithic · 03/06/2021 11:58

GLP can’t even bring itself to include “sex” in its self-defined list of protected characteristics:

Show respect for all persons equally without distinction whatsoever of race, gender, religion, colour, national or ethnic origin, language, marital status, sexual orientation, age, socioeconomic status, disability, political conviction, or any other distinguishing feature.

goodlawproject.org/good-law-project-code-of-conduct/

I did enjoy the “Goof Law Project” typo though.

SpindleWhorl · 03/06/2021 12:05

From its websute, GLP is a company not a charity; however it is a not-for-profit org with a governance board, and codes.

Tanith · 03/06/2021 12:16

Is there a trans organisation that is not dominated by TRAs? Perhaps there should be. At the moment, Mermaids is usually the recommended charity, yet so much of their advice is questionable.

FindTheTruth · 03/06/2021 12:23

And let’s say it again: this is an action headed by a straight man (Maugham) and a straight woman (Green) against a lesbian and gay founded organisation.

The headline for the whole case. In a way I'm glad it's happening as I'm sure it's going to backfire spectacularly.

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FindTheTruth · 03/06/2021 12:24

Is there a trans organisation that is not dominated by TRAs? Perhaps there should be

I will support a group like this 100%. One that works in partnership with LGB.

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ThursdayWeld · 03/06/2021 13:35

If such an organisation created itself, in theory Mermaids would sue it immediately! Because appaz only Mermaids are allowed to grift in that sphere.

yeahbutnaw · 03/06/2021 13:37

@FindTheTruth

Is there a trans organisation that is not dominated by TRAs? Perhaps there should be

I will support a group like this 100%. One that works in partnership with LGB.

Is there a trans group that is anti-trans?

Is that a real question?

donquixotedelamancha · 03/06/2021 13:53

Is there a trans group that is anti-trans? Is that a real question?

You really imagine all trans people support self ID? You can't imagine them holding their own view, just accepting what is 'good for them'?

Tibtom · 03/06/2021 14:03

Is there a trans group that is anti-trans?

You mean like a trans group that supports harmful treatment of children who identify as trans that has no positive evidence base but results in sterility and in adulthood lack of sexual function?

A transgroup for children that not only supports treatment that increases self harm but actively encourages it?

A trans group for children that placed highly confidential data onto publically accessible internet site?

A trans group for children whose non-trans member persued a transwoman to court for 'hate' only to have the case thrown out as no evidence?

A trans group for children that condemns safeguarding.

Sounds pretty anti-trans to me.

NecessaryScene · 03/06/2021 14:03

Good example of the totalitarian viewpoint, that. Every identity group is permitted exactly one viewpoint.

CallMeCleo · 03/06/2021 14:03

They've raised £47,000 already.

DeRigueurMortis · 03/06/2021 14:10

@CallMeCleo

They've raised £47,000 already.

I'd suggest from looking at the documentation that they've wasted (rather than raised) £47k.

Funny isn't it that one of their concerns was losing funding yet they are prepared to throw significant donations away on a legal hissy fit that they could have used to, you know, actually support children with gender dysphoria....Hmm

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 03/06/2021 14:23

I'd suggest from looking at the documentation that they've wasted (rather than raised) £47k.

Not wasted. The fox killer will be paid whatever the outcome.

AfternoonToffee · 03/06/2021 14:25

There seems a lot of money raised, is it just one pot for all the cases they are bringing?

Tanith · 03/06/2021 14:29

“ Is there a trans group that is anti-trans?
Is that a real question?”

No. It’s a question you made up, not the one I asked.

I’d like to know if there’s a group run by trans people for all trans people, instead of the current aggressive Queer Theory lot telling trans people how they should behave.
Mermaids doesn’t seem to be particularly pro-trans, for all the reasons given above.

Artichokeleaves · 03/06/2021 15:34

Is there a trans group that is anti-trans?

You're framing that as a trans group not dominated by trans activists is automatically 'anti trans'?

Can I just check that?

yeahbutnaw · 03/06/2021 15:36

@Artichokeleaves

Is there a trans group that is anti-trans?

You're framing that as a trans group not dominated by trans activists is automatically 'anti trans'?

Can I just check that?

Well let's consider what a TRA is.

Trans Rights Activist: Someone who advocates for the rights of trans people.

What would a Trans organisation that doesn't advocate for the rights of trans people be?

By all means provide a better description than anti-trans.

yeahbutnaw · 03/06/2021 15:39

Are there any gay organisations that aren't run by gay activists?

Oh wait, there's LGB Alliance.

Stupid question.

AfternoonToffee · 03/06/2021 15:41

You know perfectly well what was meant by the reference to a TRA.

Artichokeleaves · 03/06/2021 15:42

So trans people running a group who wouldn't term themselves as activists are 'anti trans' ?

yeahbutnaw · 03/06/2021 15:44

@Artichokeleaves

So trans people running a group who wouldn't term themselves as activists are 'anti trans' ?
You seem to have some weird personal definition of what an activist is.
nauticant · 03/06/2021 15:45

I'd suggest from looking at the documentation that they've wasted (rather than raised) £47k.

I think the CC case will be cheap, and disposable, and the surplus will be diverted elsewhere.

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