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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie putting her money where her mouth is. Lets do this.

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Fallingirl · 27/05/2021 21:39

Posie is planning to re-build the women’s sector, starting with crowd funding for a women-only refuge.

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Erikrie · 30/05/2021 17:38

Or a nice little shop? Women like running nice little shops.

That's it. Leave it real work to the 'academics' and the 'real' feminists' who know about this stuff...
😉

Datun · 30/05/2021 17:42

The last time I looked, single six exceptions were based on specifically things like refuges. I'm not sure you could exclude men from sitting next to you drinking a flat white.

TinselAngel · 30/05/2021 17:42

Like one of those awful lady books where the heroine leaves her stressful job/ horrible boyfriend and moves to the seaside/ countryside to open a sweet shop / sell cupcakes,only to catch the eye of the Lord of the manor and find true and lasting love.

buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 17:44

@Erikrie

Or a nice little shop? Women like running nice little shops.

That's it. Leave it real work to the 'academics' and the 'real' feminists' who know about this stuff...
😉

No academics do not know how to set up and run a project. This project needs women who understand the legalities and can implement these. Instead the suggestions on here are that there will be a house where women will stay and pretend it is just friends being invited to live there.
Erikrie · 30/05/2021 17:47

This project needs women who understand the legalities and can implement these.

Someone just like you right?

Then you know what to do...

Erikrie · 30/05/2021 17:50

And the comments around academics was about those who don't think ordinary women have the right to talk about feminism.

Just so you know.

Just like people like you don't think ordinary women have the right to set up services.

Because people like you know better. Not stopping to consider that there are plenty of women willing to offer their support and expertise on this.

So much gatekeeping around feminism and women's issues.

By other women seemingly.

Revolting.

buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 17:51

@Erikrie I would not be the right kind of woman for that crowd.

Congressdingo · 30/05/2021 17:52

Instead the suggestions on here are that there will be a house where women will stay and pretend it is just friends being invited to live there

And what is wrong with that? I can invite who I like to my house, I can also guarantee no men in any guise, because it's my house.
In the immediate aftermath women need a safe space, I will provide that at no cost.
Someone else will then take on rehoming the women and families.
If say 200 women country wide open their homes then that's 200 fewer having nowhere to go or having to share with men.
It's a start,.

buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 17:55

@Congressdingo It sounds lovely. It is also naive.

SapphosRock · 30/05/2021 17:55

@Datun

The last time I looked, single six exceptions were based on specifically things like refuges. I'm not sure you could exclude men from sitting next to you drinking a flat white.
If anyone can do it Posie can. You need a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim to make a service single sex. I'm sure she would wangle it for her caff.

Fatboy Slim owns a great cafe near where I live. I'm sure his fame has helped its success, and Posie's would be the same.

I also don't hear anyone sneering at him for wasting his talents running a 'nice little cafe'.

buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 17:55

Presumably Posie will personally own the house bought from this money?

Erikrie · 30/05/2021 17:58

Presumably Posie will personally own the house bought from this money

Unlikely. But hey. You could always ask her. Or are you trying to drop on that's she's trying to get herself a free house.

It's never ending isn't it.

buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 17:59

@Erikrie but there will be no legal structure. So an individual has to own the house.

WheeshtYerMansplaining · 30/05/2021 18:01

No academics do not know how to set up and run a project

Yeah, buggerbuggery, that CERN is just one big pop-up stall selling vegan particles, then they move on before they have to fill any forms in.

BattyOrange · 30/05/2021 18:02

but there will be no legal structure

How do you know there won't be a legal structure? Or is that another presumption...

Erikrie · 30/05/2021 18:04

If anyone can do it Posie can. You need a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim to make a service single sex. I'm sure she would wangle it for her caff.

Patronising. She's not planning to open a damn cafe. Why on earth should she. It hardly meets the goals she's trying to achieve does it. If you want a women's cafe bloomin well open one.

Erikrie · 30/05/2021 18:05

but there will be no legal structure. So an individual has to own the house.

And you know this because?

WheeshtYerMansplaining · 30/05/2021 18:05

This is actually quite funny now, in a rictus grin kind of a way.

Yours,

A Homeowner

Erikrie · 30/05/2021 18:06

I meant, you know theres not going to be a legal structure because. Before you misinterpret me. As you're quite prone to doing.

buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 18:06

@BattyOrange

but there will be no legal structure

How do you know there won't be a legal structure? Or is that another presumption...

Because everyone is saying there will not be. If there is fine. It would have to be a charity, CIC or co-op.
Fallingirl · 30/05/2021 18:06

Sapphos, regarding things Posie said years ago about abuse happening if you allow it; Raising funds to start a refuge for abused women is the biggest, clearest, most emphatic way of making amends for that.

Could anyone posting here honestly say they have done anything like that to make up for things they said in the past?

Also, a cafe, honestly? Just what women need. Maybe we could all contribute by crocheting doilies?

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Erikrie · 30/05/2021 18:12

Because everyone is saying there will not be.

Did Posie say that? Can you provide the evidence that she said there was going to be no legal structure please. More useful than speculation isn't it ☺️

TinselAngel · 30/05/2021 18:12

Fatboy Slim owns a great cafe near where I live. I'm sure his fame has helped its success, and Posie's would be the same.

I also don't hear anyone sneering at him for wasting his talents running a 'nice little cafe'.

I think my facetiousness passed you by. I was in fact suggesting that the suggestion Posie run a café instead of crowd fund a refuge because it would be more suited to her talents, was in fact sexist and patronising.

BattyOrange · 30/05/2021 18:13

Because everyone is saying there will not be

But Posie isn't saying that, is she? Several people on this thread have made all kinds of assumptions about this project when they don't actually know the first thing about it.

If there is fine. It would have to be a charity, CIC or co-op.

Not necessarily. It's perfectly feasible to operate as a voluntary organisation/not for profit without registering as anything.

Erikrie · 30/05/2021 18:14

was in fact sexist and patronising.

Yes it really was. The activists are all over this thread stamping their feet, slurring Posies name and coming out with patronising suggestions. Which makes me think she's definitely doing something right here.

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