SapphosRock You are trying to make this personal, which it is not for most women, it shouldn’t matter who is proposing this idea if the idea itself is a good one.
The attached example of her victim blaming women who have been abused is worth sharing again. Is this really the best candidate to set up a women's refuge?
Unfortunately, many people hold similar views to the screen shot you posted, the answer is for more consciousness raising to address those misconceptions. Posie has already acknowledged her limitations and won’t be running the refuge. Erin Pizzey who opened the first women’s refuge had some views that many feminists would completely reject, but she still did good by establishing the first shelter.
Jean Hatchet is calling her project an ‘atrocious self-promoting act’ on this very thread
I respect and like Jean and wish there wasn’t the animosity between her and Posie, they have history which is between them and I don’t wish to get involved in that, people can like and respect someone and still disagree with them at times.
She’s Tweeted that women who think they are men should be sterilised.
From memory Posie said she was criticising why women who say they are men then go on to have children, if they truly believe they are men. She was criticised at the time by many. More importantly it has no bearing on this issue.
She continues to casually misrepresent and generalise the struggles of Muslim women.
Where has she done this and how does this relate to starting up a refuge which she is not going to run?
The rest of your post highlights a difference of opinion between women fighting for women’s rights.
Surely the fact that she’s been banned from speaking at WPUK meetings tells us something
Although I appreciate WPUK for speaking up for women, there are solid feminist reasons to criticise some of their approaches, such as the fact they platform AGP men in their groups rather than their wives. Many of us also think they do not advocate for strong enough boundaries with men. So no it doesn’t really tell me anything except they have a disagreement with her.
Kathleen Stock and Julie Bindel refer to her as a ‘liability’
Stock has slated radical feminists and our analysis in her book, without really understanding our analysis, her rebuttal to it is ‘be kind’ to men and don’t ‘shame’ them, I disagree with her. It also seems odd that someone who is new to feminism and the genderism issue, is now being used to back up the argument that we should leave things to people who know better and have been involved longer, can you not see the contradiction there?
I respect Julie Bindel’s work and agree with her when she said in her review of Stock’s book that it reads like an outsider wrote it, although it was disappointing that instead of saying Stock got it wrong about radical feminism in her review of her book, she said Stock had gotten radical feminists mixed-up with American feminists. It seems to me Julie thinks feminists will get further by placating men who say they are women to some degree, instead of asserting and maintaining strong firm boundaries with them, I disagree with her on that.
What it really comes down to is feminists (and non-feminist) women who want to assert and maintain strong firm boundaries with men, disagree with those who want to negotiate those boundaries, either because they feel sorry for men, or because they think women will achieve more that way. You seem to be trying to use this difference of opinion as a way to discredit Posie personally, when in reality many radical feminists (and non feminist women) believe that women should enact and maintain strong firm boundaries with men, that is a feminist position that Posie aligns with.
The issue on this thread is not whether Posie is a ‘good’ person or whether other people dislike her, the issue is whether raising funds to start a new refuge or gain more publicity to the situation is a productive way to help the current problem. I personally think it is a good idea and haven’t yet heard a convincing argument for why it isn’t.