Scottish woman told would be charged for homophobic and transphobic tweets

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twitter.com/millar_marion/status/1396039074239164423?s=19

On Wednesday April the 28th 2021 I received a call from a PC Laura Daley from police scotland requesting i attend an interview for homophobic and transphobic tweets under the milacious communications act.

I was asked to attend that coming Friday, she told me I had to attend East Kilbride police station so I could be then transported to Cathcart police station in a police car because I would have to go to a police station where there is holding cells, I would be then processed, questioned and then most likely charged.

I told her I would not be attending any interview on that day especially with it being a bank holiday weekend because my autistic twins needed me and I was scared I would be held all weekend.

To this she told me she would attend my house with social workers for my boys.

I contacted a solicitor straight away and he was unable to get PC Daley so for the first bank holiday in May I sent my disabled twins away for fear of this officer carrying out this threat.

This absolute nonsense has been hanging over my head for a month, I can barely sleep
or eat and I still don't know what the offending tweet is, my new interview has been scheduled for Thursday the 27th May, I will find out what I am supposed to have said at that point and if I will be indeed charged, again at another bank holiday, I just want to say, anyone who knows me, knows I am not homophobic or transphobic, I am a hard working mummy who would fight to the end for the safety and dignity of women and girls and for my vulnerable twinnies.

If we sit back and do nothing we will regret it for ever. For this reason I will never
Wheesht.

#WomenWontWheesht

@BilindaB

Er, women could run businesses before the suffragettes. And many did.

blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2019/05/17/portrait-of-a-lady-the-female-entrepreneur-in-england-and-wales-1851-1911/

Thanks, @KimikosNightmare, that's really interesting! Amazing statistic from that link:

Women formed a sizeable part of this business population, owning 27-30 per cent of all businesses between 1851 and 1911. This is considerably higher than current figures: statistics from the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy shows that 21 per cent of businesses were female-led in 2017.

reviews.history.ac.uk/review/917

Also interesting for the history of "Mrs" - historically it did actually mean real status and achievement beyond just bagging a husband.

No, nobody knows exactly what the tweets in question say. I scrolled through all of her tweets going back to the start of April last week, and I didn't see a single one that would constitute 'hate' or threatening behaviour. Of course I'm not a lawyer and might not read things in the correct way, but from my reading it would take a very specific way of reading things to imply hate, and not simply standing up for women.

Would they still be up? Is the ribbon one still there? Come to think of it, do we have any other corroboration that the ribbon one is one of the six tweets, or is that just based on what Graham Linehan has said?

Stop speculating. We will find out in the fullness of time. Meanwhile, stop putting court proceedings at risk by pointless speculation. Please just stop speculating.

DH and I have just been discussing this and have decided on a family day out to protest. Something for the kids to do during the holidays 🤨😁

women could run businesses before the suffragettes

Yes, but ...

Until 1870 a married woman had no right to her own property - it's debatable (and I have been at academic economic & social historical research conferences where this has been discussed in detail) whether a married woman could have her own cheque book and bank account.

Furthermore, even after the passing of the Married Women's Property Act in 1870, women did not have the franchise, and so had no direct influence on legislation to do with business etc. Imagine if businesses today had no lobbying or voting power with MPs or Westminster?

What was the cry of the American Revolution? No taxation without representation? Yeah, right.

There'd be a revolution of the bowler-hatted.

Jeez, what is this? A re-writing of history to tell us that the suffragettes were irelevant and didnt need to do anything for women's rights?

All I can say about the latest shenanigans is that it is making more of us angry and willing to speak out.

Twitter's been very entertaining about the suffragettes today. Apparently they were

(a) wonderful women who were fighting for 'equality' rather than women's rights & so they would support trans rights, not women's rights, if they were around today

(b) racists

(c) anti-semitic

(d) all middle class/ upper class & despised other women

Oh, & the green-white-violet colour scheme belongs to a trans flag & have appropriated it.

Make of that what you will.

I'm avoiding twitter for the next seven days. Just got a 7 day ban for violent conduct for tweeting to Scottish Police that they should be ashamed of their treatment of Marion Millar. That was it with a #WomenWont Weesht hashtag.
Not bothered appealing it, what's the point. Meanwhile I must have reported 30 accounts this week calling women all sorts. Not one of them was upheld.
Thank God for Mumsnet to keep me sane.

The world we live in is becoming terrifying.

I saw that too, ifIwerenotanandroid.

Apparently feminists have stolen the purple, white and green colours straight from the genderq**r flag. Y'know, the colours the Suffragettes started using in, what was it, 1908?

You've got to fucking laugh at the insanity

You've got to fucking laugh at the insanity

You really do! Apparently no TRAs have campaigned for men to be allowed in women’s prisons, rape crisis centres, dv refuges and women’s sports: mobile.twitter.com/Gillian_Philip/status/1401599452671000584

They will justify this with TWAW so they are not campaigning for men in women's spaces, just the inclusion of different types of women.

We must be clear in discussion that the objection is to biological males in women's spaces.

Just got a 7 day ban for violent conduct for tweeting to Scottish Police that they should be ashamed of their treatment of Marion Millar. That was it with a #WomenWont Weesht hashtag.

Bet it was a member of the police who reported the tweet.

(a) wonderful women who were fighting for 'equality' rather than women's rights & so they would support trans rights, not women's rights, if they were around today

I saw that too and thought “what kind of an idiot thinks that suffragettes would be supporting adult human males inserting themselves into women’s spaces and rights?”.

And then I remembered.

Y'know, the colours the Suffragettes started using in, what was it, 1908?

It's worth thinking about what they're doing. They need a "fact" to support their narrative so they simply make one up, they know they've made it up so it's very unlikely to be true but they don't care. It then gets picked up by others who don't care either, they see an asserted fact, they approve of who has said it, and so they repeat it, and the repeating is to support the approved narrative. This is it, operating in a fact-free environment with the only things of value being that the asserted fact fits the narrative, where it comes from, and who hears it being repeated.

I look at this and wonder whether civilisation will simply be discarded as requiring too much effort.

@ifIwerenotanandroid

Twitter's been very entertaining about the suffragettes today. Apparently they were

(a) wonderful women who were fighting for 'equality' rather than women's rights & so they would support trans rights, not women's rights, if they were around today

(b) racists

(c) anti-semitic

(d) all middle class/ upper class & despised other women

Oh, & the green-white-violet colour scheme belongs to a trans flag & have appropriated it.

Make of that what you will.

I saw that. Hilarious.

Started by scolding women for invoking the suffragettes because we are nasty witches not worthy of the traditions of wonderful suffragettes, then moved onto actually they were not at all okay, in fact yes, they were terrible, awful women.

Conclusion: All women are awful except the ones who aren't. Everyone applauds.

@Mollyollydolly

I'm avoiding twitter for the next seven days. Just got a 7 day ban for violent conduct for tweeting to Scottish Police that they should be ashamed of their treatment of Marion Millar. That was it with a #WomenWont Weesht hashtag. Not bothered appealing it, what's the point. Meanwhile I must have reported 30 accounts this week calling women all sorts. Not one of them was upheld. Thank God for Mumsnet to keep me sane.

Violent conduct?

What is that, women speaking their thoughts out loud?

@FannyCann

Just got a 7 day ban for violent conduct for tweeting to Scottish Police that they should be ashamed of their treatment of Marion Millar. That was it with a #WomenWont Weesht hashtag.

Bet it was a member of the police who reported the tweet.

Oh cripes, I might be due a ban too then. 😳

A re-writing of history to tell us that the suffragettes were irelevant and didnt need to do anything for women's rights?

MRAs were already doing that. There is a line of thought that the vote was achieved despite the suffragettes, not because of them.

Judging women from more than a hundred years ago by today's standards is ridiculous though. Of course they thought differently. Britain had an empire, was very class-bound and far less ethnically diverse. People thought differently about sexual morality, about corporal and capital punishment, about churchgoing, about so many things. Today's ultra-progressives can't predict what they'll be judged against in another hundred years, either.

I think they target people en masse .. I don't think I'll last much longer and I'm very measured in what I say. Having said that I replied to a Facebook thread on the Guardian page today about Stonewall. Never again. Completely and utterly deranged, much worse than twitter. Won't be dong that again!

the green-white-violet colour scheme belongs to a trans flag

I heard it was the genderqueer colours. But if you've got hundreds of genders you'll end up using all the colour combinations.

@NotTerfNorCis

the green-white-violet colour scheme belongs to a trans flag

I heard it was the genderqueer colours. But if you've got hundreds of genders you'll end up using all the colour combinations.

Devised only 103 years after the women’s suffrage movement had adopted them.

Still, the upside is that if anyone gets arrested for tying ribbons anywhere they can now claim the genderqueer get-out-of-jail-free card.