Hypothetical question - Trans activists and the culture of abuse towards women.

[HamsterV2]

After the horrorshow that was the multiple hijacked Lesbian Visibility threads, my mind keeps going back to something @Helleofabore asked. Essentially a simple question - "What are trans activists doing to change the abusive culture towards women?" Sadly, in a nutshell, my answer was "nothing".

Hypothetically, if there was an organisation of trans people who wanted to stand with women against the current ideology - perhaps a campaign group based in biological reality who fought for third spaces, trans dv services, the cessation of misogyny and the co-ercive and bullying nature towards lesbians etc etc (we all know the issues) - what would you like to see as immediate priorities?

Essentially what would you, as women, like to see tackled head on BY such an organisation as part of its core aims or framework?

Apologies for this being potentially seen as a "women doing men's work task" - but I've had something scratching at the back of my brain since "those threads". Call it hypothetical fact-finding..

In light of recent threads of late where TRAs/allies have been deliberately goady, I've attached my response to Helleofabore during one of those threads so you can see my original viewpoint.

Tbh I'm actually quite scared of the potential replies because I know how bad things are, but I would quite like to get a good-faith discussion going on this.

@R0wantrees

From article above (extract)

"I wondered about asking you if it would be OK if I went back to the male pronouns, but I decided against it. I think you would say yes, that I should use whatever language I wanted but on the inside I think that would hurt you too much. I’d rather use the wrong word if that makes it easier for you and I to relate to one another. So, I am doing my best to learn to like the word sister but I think it’s going to take me some time.

Anyway, if I started using the male pronouns again, I would just confuse my daughter, who at three years old accepts you as a woman with no questions asked. She knows you on a first name basis. We don’t use ‘Aunty’ often because again it feels a bit like the wrong word, I’m sorry about that, but she knows you are my sister and she is always happy to see you and she knows you are the one who spoils her rotten at every opportunity." (continues)

That was written by Fionne Orlander's sister. (I'm not betraying any confidentiality in saying that, Fionne tweeted it when it first came out).

[quote TinselAngel]uncommongroundmedia.com/forced-teaming-feminism-lgb-and-trans-rights/[/quote]
Wow. That article is an absolute blinder.

From article linked above, Dr EM writes,

(extract)
"Why are ideologies antithetical to each other being presented as natural allies? Feminism argues that gender is a mechanism of a system of oppression, that gender consists of socially constructed sexist stereotypes which are then used to exploit women. The notion that because one is female one naturally wants to care and clean, one by nature of one’s female sex is submissive, polite. LGB rights rests on the idea that same-sex attraction is real and normal and should be afforded the same rights and respect as heterosexuality. Transgenderism/transsexualism, in contrast, claims gender – women’s oppression and sexist stereotypes – are innate, or sometimes that the body has to be altered to conform because of oppression discomfort disorder. Gender dysphoria claims that the person is wrong, not the cultural sexism, exploitation or oppression. It avows ‘change the person, not the system’!"

Feminist consciousness raising on this board awoke many of us to our "inner Beryl", so often exploited to put others' needs above our own:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3412053-Mumsnet-FWR-Guide-to-De-Programming-Yourself-From-Self-Harming-Kindness