Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9533463/Caitlyn-Jenner-says-OPPOSES-trans-girls-competing-girls-sport.html

But how long before she is bullied into changing her mind??!?! Or saying she was misquoted?

Caitlyn is running as a republican and this is a hot political issue for them at the moment. No way will Caitlyn back down, it’s a deliberate political stance.

If anything I’d expect some doubling down to emphasise that Caitlyn may be trans but her intrinsic values as the same as other republicans

I read this in the papers today and was thinking: wow. But yes, it makes sense, doesn't it? Running for California, Republican, lots of 'trans-related' bills appearing in the US right now so... makes political as well as actual common sense. Interesting...

Yes, things are definitely going to get interesting . Good.

I am not at all surprised by this. As people say being a former athlete she knows the truth of the situation. Also I tend to find a lot of the wackier trans ideas are actually from trans right activists rather than trans people just living their lifes.

I was listening to a US political podcast recently (the 538 one) and they were talking about how the Republican platform will be on “culture wars” and it certainly seems to be playing out that way.

On the same podcast there was an interesting survey on which current cultural issues are important to voters. As you’d imagine hardly any Republicans thought trans rights were important to them, but I was surprised that only 51% of Democrats identified trans rights as an important issue.

That means that, Twitter and the media notwithstanding, there’s definite political gain to be made by pushing back on TWAW and males competing in female sports.

I don't think they will get interesting.

CJ is a hardline republican who has said some things in the past about gay marriage and things.

CJ was dating a woman and seemed totally thrown when someone said something about CJ being gay.

CJ did for a fair while use their previous name so as not to lose their membership of their favourite golf club.

CJ has said in an interview that they nicked their daughters underwear.

CJ also wasn't prosecuted for speeding and causing a crash in which someone died. Not prosecuted even for the speeding...

CJ is a very wealthy very famous person who has been celebrated left right and centre.

Previous pretty iffy things have been overlooked.

I don't think there will be any major noise over this. In the real world, not Twitter etc. I don't think they will be challenged seriously.

In the end CJ is not the sort of person who gets attacked like jkr did.

I’d like to get in early and place a 5 quid bet on there being an article about this with the word “problematic” the headline or subheading.

Caitlyn was an athlete. Caitlyn knows.

This basically

Yes, this, despite the fact that it is part of their political stand point, they will know. I think part of the problem with people not understanding this issue, is that they don't play a sport to a decent level. If you do ( and I play a mixed sport) it is so obvious, but we've been sold the dream of equality for so long, that some people do believe (mainly women) that we are equal on the sports pitch.

Agree it clearly makes political sense for CJ to say this now, as CJ needs to make clear, at this point when being pro-trans is seen as a Democrat stance, that CJ is explicitly on the Republican side in the culture wars.

But it also makes sense in a personal sense. CJ won medals as a man so will have little fellow feeling for a fellow TW who argues they have to play in women's sport. CJ will probably view that person as having an unfair advantage that they, CJ, did not enjoy.

Professional sportspeople don't like others cheating.

CJ competed in an event that is men only at the Olympics etc.

CJ has used old name when suits.

If CJ didn't want to be dead named etc and said they were always female that causes massive questions around a lot of stuff.

I suspect CJ looks after their own interests.

I don't envisage a massive mainstream backlash.

CJ is showing the voters that they put their politics ahead of their personal identity.

Nothing more.

CJ loses nothing by this.

Republicans aren't interested in trans activism. Dems wouldn't vote for CJ in a month of Sundays.

However, I like that it's been stated out loud be someone trans - and who was made Woman of the Year etc, because an actual discussion can be had about it - and there will be lots that the Dem media want to say. At the end of the day though "California has bigger problems than pronouns" (or whatever that quote was) will ring true for a lot of people who don't follow all of this on Twitter. So the narrative may at least be challenged.

Many trans people actually agree with CJ on this but either they are not activists and just get on with their lives, or they're cancelled because they're not following the narrative set by activists.

It must be very very confusing for some demographics when they look at who to vote for. CJ is raising "trans visibility" and they salivate at being the first state to have a trans governor, yet it's CJ, someone who says things that are "problematic"! Must be doing their heads in! 😂

www.tmz.com/2021/05/01/caitlyn-jenner-trans-girls-ban-sports-biological-boys/

check that out

she not only backs fairness in girls sport but she also refuses to say 'cis'

biological boys

biological boys

biological boys

I repeat as TRAs hate any mention of science, preferring their made up woo language. So once again

"This is a question of fairness, that's why I oppose biological boys who are trans competing in girls sports in school," Jenner said on a video. "It just isn't fair, and we have to protect girls' sports in our schools."

Caitlyn believes in biology

Not seen one tweet mention about trans boys competing in boys sports only trans girls in girls......wonder why 🤔

... makes political as well as actual common sense

It is an attempt to find the some centre ground on the issue

Most importantly, she has conceded the need for debate, which is the only way to stop the madness. Many others will now step up and say "this is not fair"

I was glad to see this.

She has achieved one thing, which is very important in US elections

She is now the only candidate that people are talking about

It was hugely important when Arnie ran, other candidates could not get their campaigns off the ground.

@Eminybob

Never thought I’d agree with something Caitlin Jenner has to say. But she’s not wrong.

This!!

This is exactly what I was going to say. Of course Caitlyn Jenner knows the deal here. Caitlyn will of course be accused of 'pulling up the ladder behind her' etc, but it's no coincidence that actual athletes are against this. Because they of all people know.

Word for word! I like the reply though.

This comes as no surprise, and nor does the ensuing meltdown on Twitter

I’ve got my popcorn.

The only note of caution I would sound is I’m not clear if this line of thinking only applies to children or adults.

Word for word!

Okay, I didn't believe Letsgetreadytocrumble. I was wrong!

Yeah, cos Jenner totally participated in women's sport and is now preventing others from following the footsteps.

Someone has even claimed that with this rule caitlyn wouldn't have got to the Olympics themselves and more claim they should hand their medals back. The sheer ignorance of the fact that caitlyn competed as a male is staggering

Fantastic reply though: "Ahhhh so it IS a ladder... all along we were told it was a step down into oppression".