Lesbian Visibility Week

[ASugarr]

As Lesbian Visibility Week comes to an end, I want to make a quick reminder that
ALL LESBIANS ARE VALID!

Cisgender and Transgender women can be lesbians. Transgender men who date women don't consider themselves lesbians. All Lesbians deserve visibility!

Additionally, many have stated that they don't wish to date transgender people. That's fine! Just because someone is in the same dating pool doesn't mean you MUST be attracted to them. Plus genital preference is also totally fine! But don't forget, trans women are women so please do not degrade them just because you personally don't wish to date them.

Plus, let's continue to educate one another on the important information. Like preventing STI's as a lesbian, domestic abuse in lesbian relationships and how to deal with that, safe and consentual sex between lesbians. This is what we need to be educating young lesbians and bisexual women on.

Have a fabulous long weekend all 🤍🌈

@Nodal

Nobody called your brother a girl. Stop acting like a child.

Yes actually they have. @BlackWhiteandstripey did.

No one called your sibling a girl.

You made a racist comment.

Are you seriously suggesting that you aren't able to apologise for your own wrongdoing unless other people apologise for theirs (which may or may not have happened)?

Being sorry for posting a racist remark is conditional?!

Don't you mean cis gender?

“You don't have to if you don't want to, but respect others that do.“

No one should are your words not mine I merely quoted you.

“No one should.”

Check back through your posts if you think you said something else.

Asugarr genuinely it might be worth your while to look at some info about constructed ideas of what women are supposed to look/ behave like (usually by men but often expressed by many people of both sexes), and especially around race.

In the UK I was just talking on another thread about the abuse and piss taking of Fatima Whitbread when I was young. An Olympic medal winning UK sports woman. A woman with a horrific childhood who kept going and became a sporting legend. Her medals were years ago yet her name is still known. An amazing role model for women, for girls. For those whose looks/ colour did not meet the male gaze standards.

Outside the UK, all that Serena Williams is a man stuff.

These are pretty recent and high profile examples, the second one very recent.

To compare the struggles of transwomen being accepted as women, to women who are black (or disabled, or lesbian, etc, as I have seen done over and over and over) is a cheap and offensive appropriation of other groups problems and history and language.

And people notice. Of course they do. And it does not reflect well on the person making the argument or the group they are arguing for.

I don't understand why this terrible analogy is persisted with when it's been pointed out to infinity and back that it's racist.

ASugarr, you are white (according to your Twitter profile). You make a comment about black women being a subgroup of women. And you cannot see how inappropriate this is?

And instead of apologising you talk about your brother and state that unless people on this board say that somebody who is born a biological woman is a man, you will continue to call black women a subgroup of women?

TBF I find “cis gender” quite offensive.

Yep

What nicegerbil just said

@WoolOfBat

ASugarr, you are white (according to your Twitter profile). You make a comment about black women being a subgroup of women. And you cannot see how inappropriate this is?

And instead of apologising you talk about your brother and state that unless people on this board say that somebody who is born a biological woman is a man, you will continue to call black women a subgroup of women?

And? You all are not transgender yet you feel free to make comments that are incredibly wrong about them. So maybe take your own advice. My argument is that no woman is a subgroup. Including trans women.

So you won't respond to one woman who said she was personally offended by your comment about black women until a totally different person apologies?

@blackwhiteandstripey

For all those interested I said

Your brother was once a little girl.

Given that ASugarr has said her brother is a transman, this seems to me to be a truthful and fair comment to make.

I said this in the context of asking what ASugarr's journey has been to becoming a trans ally.

No he wasn't. That is transphobic and wrong. Apologize.

And actually that is very kind of nicegerbil to say

You really weren’t very kind to her on a previous thread and she has spoken to you considerately and helpfully

no woman is a subgroup

And yet you persist with the whole cis thing.

I'm also confused as to why misgendering a trans person it literal violence but telling black women they are like men is AOK?

@LostToucan

no woman is a subgroup

And yet you persist with the whole cis thing.

Yes I'm cisgender. Doesn't mean I'm not a woman.

You think black women are like men? Wow that's incredibly racist! Disgusting

She didnt say that

Stop making shit up

black do you know why your post was deleted?

[quote blackwhiteandstripey]@ASugarr

No he wasn't. That is transphobic and wrong. Apologize

What?

I am really starting to struggle here ASugarr. I've tried to engage in a conversation with you on this thread. I'm starting to suspect that this is all just a wind up.

You've already told us your brother is a transman. It stands to logic therefore that they were born a girl and I imagine spent some time as a girl before deciding to transition.

Why are you making this out to be a bad thing? [/quote]
Calling my brother a girl is transphobic and wrong.

Well yeah, it applies in the exact same way

And this seems a very immature reaction to being deleted for a racist statement. You are doubling down. People have explained why it is racist. People have explained it is also linguistically incorrect in an academic sense as well as in a logical sense.